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Dec 12, 2015 9:31 AM CST
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Name: Lucky
Sacramento CA (Zone 9b)
Plumerias
Just got my box of plumeria cuttings I bought from Ken (Drdawg) yesterday evening.
I got home late and my wife surprised me with my box of plumeria cuttings. I went to get the box cutter to open it and wife said I had to wait. Sad She said she wanted to be the first one to see them and she was tired and going to bed. So, I now have to wait Glare Well, she went to bed and I decided to put it under the Christmas tree.
It's been a few years since I was this excited to open a box that was under the Christmas tree.
Looks like Christmas is coming 2 weeks early for us! Big Grin

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Question:
How many cuttings should I put per 5 gal bucket?
Where do you suggest would be the best place to have them stored over the winter? (dark, partial light, over 50, 60 degrees etc etc)

Going to go buy some coarse perlite. Which reminds me is coarse perlite the big chunks or small pebbles?
Lucky Patrick
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Dec 12, 2015 10:20 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Coarse will be small pebbles. You can easily put all the cuttings in a single bucket. I just tie 5 together with soft cord or with twist-tie material (plastic coated wire found in any big-box store such as Lowe's). I will tie near the bottom and then about 2-3's up so that the bundle will be nice and stable. I would have about 3-4" of perlite on the bottom, put that bundle onto the perlite (you can tilt the bundle so that it rests on the lip of the bucket) and then add another 3-4" over the bases. That's it. Just keep the bucket in a warmish place, above 50F. It does not matter whether it is dark or not. All I do is mist those tiny, terminal leaves every few weeks. If you have some air movement that's better but not critical. I have my buckets in my "Everything Else" greenhouse and there are always fans running. Being in a greenhouse, my cuttings gets lots of bright light and even direct sunlight this time of year won't hurt them a bit. If a bit of moisture gets into the perlite, no big deal. If a lot of water gets in and makes the perlite really moist, just remove everything, re-do with fresh perlite, and away you go. Don't throw the wet perlite away. Use it in potting media or let it dry out and its ready to go again.

Those plants had an interesting journey. You would have gotten them three days earlier if your CA Dept. of Agriculture had not confiscated them when they arrived at your post office. Angry A crappy dog sniffed them out. My tax dollars at work. Sticking tongue out

I am now considering NOT shipping anything to CA other than epiphytic plants. I have shipped to CA for over five years and now in the last two months, I have had two boxes of plants intercepted. The first was a box of two, 3' fiddle leaf ficus plants. They destroyed these beautiful, healthy plants, claiming they found some dirt there. I don't use dirt to grow my fiddles, only peat, sphagnum, and perlite. The agent could not have cared less when I told her this. To her, it was dirt, and that was that. Naturally, I refunded everything to that customer and took the hit. The agent I spoke to about the plumeria was actually very nice to me. He was out of the Sacramento office. He said those fiddles were supposed to have been returned to me since they were shipped Priority Mail. He did not have a clue why the agent (in S. CA) would destroy the plants rather than ship them back to me.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 12, 2015 10:58 AM CST

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Unless you have a special stamp from the Ag department/are a certified nursery you are no longer allowed to ship live plants to California. Cuttings are ok.
As you experienced, the cuttings were inspected but allowed through.
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Dec 12, 2015 11:04 AM CST
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Name: Lucky
Sacramento CA (Zone 9b)
Plumerias
Does it cost a lot of money to be a certified nursery?
Lucky Patrick
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Dec 12, 2015 11:09 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
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It depends on the state I am sure. And you have be inspected regularly.
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Dec 12, 2015 11:20 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
That's actually not true. While talking with the Ag. agent, he said he had just returned a large box of plants, all with numerous certifications, from a nursery in FL. He said the plants were heavily infested. He said it did not matter whether a nursery was certified or not. They found pests in those just like non-certified shipments. In fact, he said those shipments known to contain plants were more often "flagged" than shipments from hobbyists like me. Without that specially trained dog, my boxes would pass unhindered. Also, he said live plants were fine so long as they did not come from specific locations (states and certain counties in states). Keep in mind, this shipment of ten plumeria were not just cuttings. I had rooted plants as well. He told me my county was not on any sort of quarantine listing and said that was a definite advantage. Of course citrus and vegetable crops would be specific plants that would not be welcome to come into CA.

I learned a lot from this agent but I don't know whether that knowledge benefits me much. He said he would send me some valuable information concerning shipping to CA and that this information would be helpful to me. Hopefully he will and it is.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 12, 2015 11:26 AM CST
Name: KadieD
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Hmm. Good info to know, @drdawg, even if I am not in the business.
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