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Contest: Associate Forum Images with Plants

By dave
December 12, 2015

It's December and we're holding a fun activity that will have you exploring the forums, finding photos that have been posted, and associating those photos with plants in the database. Open to find out more!

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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Dec 12, 2015 10:02 AM CST
Isn't this going to result in a lot of lower-quality photos being added to the DB? (I know I post a lot of photos of veggies in forums that I wouldn't even think of adding to the database, so I assume other people do too?) Or at least result in a lot of work in terms of reviewing the photos before they get added?
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Name: Kim
Iowa (Zone 5a)
I kill ornamentals... on purpose.
Enjoys or suffers cold winters Spiders! Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants I helped beta test the first seed swap
Region: Nebraska Keeper of Poultry Rabbit Keeper Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Procrastinator Garden Ideas: Level 2
Chillybean
Dec 12, 2015 11:06 AM CST
Good questions! I have seen some pretty tiny photos in the database that really should be larger. This could be messy.
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals
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Dutchlady1
Dec 12, 2015 11:14 AM CST
The lesser quality photos can still have some value. If it's the only picture for a plant I think it's worthwhile to have at least one image, and if there are already six or so, it usually ends up in the bottom spot. I'd say add all pics!
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Dec 12, 2015 12:05 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

Yes, and the images are shown by order of thumbs. So lesser quality images will appear further down the page. Admins even have the power to move the worst down to a "page 2" that requires users to click to access.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Dec 12, 2015 12:30 PM CST

Plants Admin

And please check to make sure the photo you're "associating" isn't already in the database. I've just had to decline several that were already there.
Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Herbs Dragonflies Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry
Birds Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Plant Identifier
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Bonehead
Dec 12, 2015 12:51 PM CST
Good point, Zuzu. I often upload a photo to an initial post directly from my computer so it will appear as a thumbnail to the thread. I do this because It's my understanding (?) that if I upload the same photo directly from the database, it doesn't show up as a thumbnail to the thread.

But, on that note, could a message pop up that the photo is already in the database? I know I get this when I try to upload a picture from my computer which is already in the database...?
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Dec 12, 2015 12:58 PM CST

Plants Admin

First, you're mistaken about the database photo not showing up as a thumbnail. If you write the first post in a new thread and then add the ATP BB Code of a database photo to the post, that photo will be the thumbnail of the thread.

A message does pop up if the image is exactly like the one already in the database, but sometimes subtle enhancements have been made (in sharpness, contrast, brightness, etc.), and those changes keep the system from recognizing the photo.
Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Herbs Dragonflies Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry
Birds Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Plant Identifier
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Bonehead
Dec 12, 2015 1:02 PM CST
Thanks for the clarification, that will make things much easier for me. I always like to have a thumbnail photo associated with a thread. Heck, I just like photos associated with everything!
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Dec 12, 2015 1:04 PM CST

Plants Admin

I agree, and I think threads with thumbnails attract more attention and are more likely to be read.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
Region: California Plant Database Moderator Roses Irises Clematis Garden Photography
Cottage Gardener Keeper of Poultry Hummingbirder Bee Lover Butterflies Birds
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Calif_Sue
Dec 13, 2015 5:09 PM CST

Plants Admin

zuzu said:And please check to make sure the photo you're "associating" isn't already in the database. I've just had to decline several that were already there.


I too just had to decline 10-15 of them because they were already in the database. Maybe Dave can add that note to the original post, that one needs to open the entry and check it first.
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Dec 13, 2015 5:12 PM CST

Plants Admin

I think part of the problem was that you suddenly had three different people proposing daylily image imports, and some may have proposed the same images before the initial proposals were approved.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Dec 13, 2015 5:15 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

Yes, and there is a note to check the entry first when the user clicks. It's a big warning that appears if the image owner has already posted 1 least one photo to the plant in question.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
Region: California Plant Database Moderator Roses Irises Clematis Garden Photography
Cottage Gardener Keeper of Poultry Hummingbirder Bee Lover Butterflies Birds
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Calif_Sue
Dec 13, 2015 9:43 PM CST

Plants Admin

Could be Zuzu, but for most of them, the photo owners had already submitted them and it looked like someone was going through older threads.
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
Clematis Irises Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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zuzu
Dec 13, 2015 9:53 PM CST

Plants Admin

That's too bad. I guess I was bending over backwards to provide a reasonable explanation. Hilarious!
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
Region: California Plant Database Moderator Roses Irises Clematis Garden Photography
Cottage Gardener Keeper of Poultry Hummingbirder Bee Lover Butterflies Birds
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Calif_Sue
Dec 13, 2015 10:08 PM CST

Plants Admin

Green Grin!
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Coatesville IN (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hummingbirder Lilies Region: Indiana Dog Lover Echinacea
Butterflies Birds Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Claudia
Dec 16, 2015 4:50 PM CST
I do know I have accidentally sent a couple duplicates. *Blush* I am trying to be more careful now but did make another goof today. I do feel sorry for you guys having to go thru all of request!
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Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
Daylilies Region: Virginia Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Heucheras Cat Lover Hummingbirder
Clematis Lilies Birds Garden Art Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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floota
Dec 17, 2015 6:49 AM CST
But what if people are putting your images in the database and you don't want them added? is this really fair to the owner of the images?
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Dec 17, 2015 9:25 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

@floota you can disable this in your preferences. From the announcement:

One final note: If you are a person who would rather that your photos do not be associated with plants in the database, then you can opt out. Go to your preferences area and find the part that says "Allow your forum photos to be associated with plants in the database?" Set that to "No" and save your changes, and then nobody will be able to do this to your photos.
Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
Daylilies Region: Virginia Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Heucheras Cat Lover Hummingbirder
Clematis Lilies Birds Garden Art Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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floota
Dec 17, 2015 9:44 AM CST
If I do that, will I be able to add my own photos as I choose to?
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
Region: California Plant Database Moderator Roses Irises Clematis Garden Photography
Cottage Gardener Keeper of Poultry Hummingbirder Bee Lover Butterflies Birds
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Calif_Sue
Dec 17, 2015 9:58 AM CST

Plants Admin

I would think you wouldn't be able to import them from a thread but you can add them directly from your files.

I too had several images just added that I had originally decided not to add as I already had several better ones in the entry. Some entries have 10-30 images and I think it may be overkill to add more, especially from members who already have numerous images submitted.
You can always propose to remove an image if you really don't want it in an entry.
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