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Aug 15, 2011 7:15 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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I found it. Here is the link. When you get there you have to look over on the right side for the thumbnails & click on them & may need to click on "more". You will have to go through till you find the beginning of construction otherwise it won't make much sense. It is mesh wire & the gunite sprayed & then fiberglass if I recall correctly. There is a book of the designer's drawings, notes & details on Ebay. Just Google "Hobe Sound Bubble Houses" the book is about the 3rd or 4th listing down. You'll recognize the Ebay web address. It's around $6 with $3 or $4 shipping. so if you're really interested then for about $10 you can get into more details of it.

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I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Aug 16, 2011 4:03 AM CST
Name: June or Nancy-June o
Fort Leonard Wood, MO (Zone 6a)
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Thanks!
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Aug 16, 2011 4:24 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I tip my hat to you.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Aug 16, 2011 7:39 AM CST
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Name: Gordon
Brooklyn , New York
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Yes... the concrete houses.. they are made kind of like the way they would make the concrete boats.. basicly a wire housse that has it's holes filled in with concrete...
funny story.. unless it was yours... back in the early concrete boat days.. this guy spent months making the wire framework.. out back.. next to his house.. then on concreteing day.. he was there but going to try the gunnite spraying to apply the concrete.... before troweling it smooth and fair along the hull... now... all the boat has to be cast the same day.. to make a seamless one piece boat... as expanson and torque will alwaays find the jont and cause a crack.. so he's there startng to spray the concrete... and it flys up.. goes through the wire into the boat.. through the wire on the other side.. and out splatting aganst his house... so this wire framework he's got 10's of thousands of dollars and man hours into.. isn't working right and it all has to be done today so it can set up and cure as one piece.. so he had to shift to pushing the concrete by hand into the wire.. then finishing it.. wth a shorter crew than normal.. because he was gong to have the spray do most of the work.. he.. his wife and children.. and the small crew beat them selves well through the night.. to save the started concreted form... later gunnite sprayed boats had a wooden inner form to hold the concrete... but not seeing the inside... you'd not know you had fulll penetration aganst the wood.. leavng possbile voids.. all this is oK in a house.. as you can concrete and stop and not worry about cracking.. the life pod house was done in stages... it had it's doorways concreted first for rigidity..as shown in the application photos.. always have a full bacing if you're going to be spraying onto your form.. that concrete house was a full wire/rebar house... before they put the concrete on...
and the concrete house.. with no sprayed foam... would be like a dutch oven in the sun....
the new concrete/foam houses use a foam block.. like a concrete block.. you stack them like concrete blocks real light and easy... lay rod down through the blocks.. and tiie to rod land horizontally along the courses and then pour concrrete down to fill up the foam blocks... so you are stuck with straight walls.. but they are solid concrete /rod ... without the need for forms... as the forms are left in place as inside and outside foam insulation... [ stucco the outside.. and nsde either stucco or sheetrock applied to the foam ...and finishsed in the regular manner for it..] it's dead quiet in the inside.. and able to be heated with a light bulb ..well almost...
http://www.smartblock.com/
this is one of many foam block systems available.. I went to a day long instructonal on it's use and methods by another company than what the link is to.. and you can stack them and pour them with only a little help... and they have a flat roof system fot it also... making a great roof garden/water catchment space on top... all done in foam .. with the rods and concrete inside... very tornado/hurricane resistant .. but not as wind sleak as the rounded bubble houses..
sorry to run on so...
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Aug 16, 2011 8:00 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
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That is really Neat! I'm glad you told us about it. You are never too old to learn... I think it would be the way to go....
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Aug 16, 2011 8:53 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Gordon, going to check out the smartblock. Thanks! When DH & I first started out we lived on various boats/houseboats. DH's freind & buddy from childhood lived on the (tied up to) dock next to us. He had a concrete hull houseboat. They are really neat. Funny story --- he had a cat. He would put the cat in a lower kitchen cabinet then close it. Then shake the box of cat food & you could hear her running through the bilges like a madwoman till she reached a place she could squiggle through on the opposite side. We had many laughs with that.
Speaking of unusual materials to find boat hulls made of..... We bought & lived aboard a 25', 1947 SteelCraft cabin cruiser (cabin was modified of course). Hull made completely of steel. They were Coast Guard boats originally. You might think of steel for big tankers & freighters but not for the smaller boats. One day I came home from doing laundry to find our "home" had dissappeared from the slip. Seems DH & his curiosity had gotten the better of him & he decided to "test" the bottom of the hull to see how badly it was rusted. Took a fork & began banging on it. You guessed it --- he was able to see the bottom of the river! Rolling on the floor laughing
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Aug 16, 2011 9:26 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gordon
Brooklyn , New York
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HA HA HA ... well Ann now there's a story... ..i f he got through with a fork.. it's a good thing you wern't leaving the dock with it.. interesting to live aboard.. something I've always wanted to do... but perhaps pull off and travel some in the boat also.. a salboat.... the most expensive way in the world of traveling third class... MMMMMM
here's a link to .... the association of the insulated concrete forms industery..
http://www.forms.org/
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Aug 16, 2011 11:15 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
You said a mouthfull there about sailboat traveling! But it is "something else" indeed! Nothing like it in the world. If one can't climb Everest one ought to experience sailing. Far more attainable than Everest.... and SAFER!

Thanks for the links Gordon.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Aug 20, 2011 11:05 AM CST
Name: June or Nancy-June o
Fort Leonard Wood, MO (Zone 6a)
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Those insulated concrete forms look like they are just the ticket! Thanks for finding all of the info, Gordon Thumbs up
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Aug 20, 2011 1:19 PM CST
Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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I know this is quite off topic, but the talk about ICF's reminded me about the concrete block out building we are planning to build. We've never built one before. Anyone build one or had one built for them? Anyone have good reasons why we should or should not build a concrete block out building?
We're thinking of using colored split face blocks so they look good and don't need painting.
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Aug 23, 2011 2:58 AM CST
Name: Debbie
Lexington, VA (Zone 6a)
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Tabby, I've been doing a lot of research lately for a concrete wall my son wants to build in Phoenix. I remember seeing a site where a couple built a concrete block shed but darn it, I can't find it now! Grumbling I can't think of any reason why you "should not" build one, as long as you take the necessary steps to lay a good footer with vertical rebar for reinforcement, etc. they're practically indestructible and last forever! The "split face blocks" are more expensive but obviously have more aesthetic appeal and you're right, they wouldn't need painting. Thumbs up With the proper tools and planning you shouldn't have any problem building it yourself. Good luck! Smiling
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Aug 25, 2011 10:04 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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They use concrete blocks to build garages and outbuildings and so forth everywhere around here. Our retaining walls are concrete blocks and they've been here and pretty solid for almost 45 years. Big Grin
I garden for the pollinators.
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Aug 25, 2011 6:23 PM CST
Name: June or Nancy-June o
Fort Leonard Wood, MO (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I sent a postcard to Randy! Garden Art Roses Region: United States of America Container Gardener
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idk if it is because we have 100+ little earthquakes a year in Arkansas, or if my Dad was just an anal accountant/DIY'r Rolling on the floor laughing , but we built block walls with rebar going vertically and horizontally and it was wire-tied together in some spots like corners and by openings. I have wondered if there was a need for so much rebar...but we did have a wall in the basement move 10" during one series of quakes. It was a poured slab wall with no rebar.

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