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Jan 5, 2016 11:21 AM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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Your house sounds like mine Ursula. Plants everywhere. Hehe Literally everywhere but 1 bedroom.
Do you mind my asking ... how many Adeniums do you have?

I wish I had a GH. Tried to talk wife into converting a large screen porch on South side of house to sun room. Nope.

I guess you caught my subtle hint then? nodding Beggars can't be choosers. If you do have some to spare, anytime would be great. Another member shared a few seeds, but I could do with some more, Thank You!
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Jan 5, 2016 11:30 AM CST
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
I am looking forward to see the results after you are done with the seedlings Ken. Especially the photo's. That sure is a nice idea. I think I wait a bit till spring arrives. I have no heat in my greenhouse yet. First that has to work. Otherwise i have no space to place them all after repotting. Also most of them still Only do have one, two or not even a leaf at all. Only a few with 4 leaves now. Whistling
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Jan 5, 2016 11:49 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
That tallest adenium, the one that is about 8" tall, has 18-20 leaves. All my 7 month old adeniums have a minimum of 8 leaves now, even those that are only 4" tall.
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Jan 5, 2016 11:54 AM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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DavidLMO said:I only have one at this point, so know what you mean. I am starting several from seed. Another new experience for me.


I will be starting my first Adenium seeds in about a week when I get back to my Greenhouse and grow tent. I'm really looking forward to having some new babies to play with and experiment on. Green Grin!
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Jan 5, 2016 11:54 AM CST
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
That is not bad at all. Mine eldest are Only from november 12th. So still very young. Also it is not really the period that they do grow much now. So I guess in spring they have a head start. Hilarious!
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Jan 5, 2016 11:55 AM CST
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Good on you Karen. It is nice to start them from seed. They are so cute.
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Jan 5, 2016 1:58 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I agree I don't know which is the more cute, my adenium babies or my first plumeria seed-pods.
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Jan 5, 2016 2:12 PM CST
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
I must say I find Adenium more cute than plumeria or the seedpods. Rolling my eyes.
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Jan 5, 2016 2:13 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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drdawg said:That tallest adenium, the one that is about 8" tall, has 18-20 leaves. All my 7 month old adeniums have a minimum of 8 leaves now, even those that are only 4" tall.


Wow. Thumbs up I have an Adenium that I purchased Summer '14 hardly bigger than your tallest. Slightly over 12 " tall from soil line. But it does have bookoo leaves.

Like I said. You DO have the magic touch Ken. Thumbs up
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Jan 5, 2016 2:16 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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drdawg said: I agree I don't know which is the more cute, my adenium babies or my first plumeria seed-pods.


Speaking of those seed pods - perhaps an update is warranted over in the other forum/thread? How are they doing?
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Jan 5, 2016 3:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
They are just beautiful seed-pods, David. I know that's a strange word to use, but they truly are. @Adeniumgirl, just in case you missed my post on the Plumeria forum, here is a picture of my first-ever, seed-pods. I waited 20 years to have my first seed-pods! Sad

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Jan 5, 2016 3:25 PM CST
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
They are pretty Ken. Wow 20 years is a long time. No wonder you are excited Ken. Thumbs up
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Jan 5, 2016 3:34 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Even though you aren't into Plumeria, Willeke, you might like to see my discussion on this particular plant over on the Plumeria forum. She was what I first called "historical", then sort of moved away from that term, but now I consider her "historical" again. She has been an amazing seedling and she's named 'Kathryn's Honeysuckle Rose' (after my wife).

By the way, and this is the last mention of her here, these were just a few of her flowers this fall. She was in bloom from July through December and now is forming another inflo. stem. She will be in bloom next month. The fragrance is honeysuckle, rose, with a hint of pear.



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Jan 5, 2016 3:41 PM CST
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
She is gorgeous Ken. Very nice that you did name it after your wife. Good choice. Hurray!
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Jan 5, 2016 9:29 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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Ken -- You are way too modest. Yes a historical plant. Seed to bloom in 15 months!! And then - of all the plumeria you have grown over the years, it is also the first to set seed. Quite historical.

Reviewing the flower form and scent, Ken have you ever guessed who was the pollen donor?

BTW - where did you get the seeds?
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About how long did it take for germination?
I have mine on a heat mat set at ~ 80 F.
Note that at this point, I only have 6 seeds Smiling
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Jan 5, 2016 9:45 PM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
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In the meanwhile - Dave, you asked how many Adeniums I have. I have three. I have a regular obesum, a multiflorum Mombassa, ( this one is somewhat miniature) and the third one is perhaps a somalense x obesum. That one grew very fast and very tall and had a trunk more typical for somalense, I used to top it off at eye height. I almost lost it a few years ago, but I took some cuttings and they took off again.
Seeds resulting from these three might give small, medium and very fast growing plants, as I have these outside in Summer blooming next to each other.
And - your name is on those seeds. Smiling
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Jan 5, 2016 10:22 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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Cool. Thanks for the info. I just have one large one at this point - basically a NOID. Has not bloomed.

"I used to top it off at eye height". How high is what it is sitting on? How tall is the plant?

Yes - that sounds like a wild combo and who knows how much crossing took place. nodding Do you know if more than one flowers pollen can be used by the receptor? On Daylilies as I understandit, once a plant has pollen it will not get any more.

And thank you - very, very kind of you.
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Jan 6, 2016 7:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
David, that particular plumeria was grown from gifted seed and thus I don't have a clue who the pollen parent was. Keep in mind I have never had seeds of my own, only seeds gifted by others. That will change this summer/fall (hopefully). Even then, I won't know the pollen parent. I had eight different varieties in bloom during the time that 'K's Honeysuckle Rose' was in bloom. The plants closest to her were 'Madame Gallibert', 'Slaughter Pink', 'Vera Cruz Rose', and 'Scott Pratt'. But that doesn't mean any one of them was the pollen parent. During that same time I also had 'Jack's Compact Yellow', 'Malaysian Red', 'Riviera Rainbow', and several 'Celadine' in bloom.

I think the first germination occurred in 7-10 days and the rest germinated within another 10-14 day period. I potted them all up on July 10, so those plants would have been 2-4 wks. old. This was summer and in a greenhouse. I did not use any sort of heat mat.
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Jan 6, 2016 7:39 AM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Hmm, I should have said "cut it off" instead of top it off at eye height. And I have no idea what would have crossed with what.
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Jan 6, 2016 7:48 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Location, location, location! Ken, even though this winter is supposed to be a doozy, you, in MS, will have a lot of natural sun and with your toasty greenhouse and those supplemental lights, your seedlings may well skip dormancy.
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