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Jan 6, 2016 8:50 AM CST
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Name: Ibis
Florida, Orlando-ish (Zone 9b)
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I've seen a couple of mentions about adding epsom salt to the regular fertilizing schedule for orchids. How much should you apply, and how is it best applied? Do some orchids respond better than others? Does it help leaves, blooming or roots? Just trying to get your experiences. Thank you!
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Jan 6, 2016 9:13 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Ibis, here is a little article that sums it up pretty well:

http://faq.gardenweb.com/discu...

Jim
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Jan 6, 2016 10:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ibis
Florida, Orlando-ish (Zone 9b)
Region: Florida Tropicals Bromeliad Orchids Container Gardener Foliage Fan
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Thanks, Jim - I ran across the same article during my google search, but was hoping to get some first-hand experience from all the knowledgeable folks here. Smiling
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Jan 6, 2016 10:22 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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I delute 1/2 tablespoon in a gallon of rain water and put it in a one gallon hand sprayer. I also fertilize at the same time. They get the magnesium once per week and the fertilizer twice per week. You can also add insecticide or fungicide to the mix as needed.

Jim
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Jan 6, 2016 11:41 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ibis
Florida, Orlando-ish (Zone 9b)
Region: Florida Tropicals Bromeliad Orchids Container Gardener Foliage Fan
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Do you spray the potting medium or the leaves?
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Jan 6, 2016 12:01 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Everything except the flowers.

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Jan 6, 2016 12:37 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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thanks Jim, this reminder is good for me as well...( it's soo hard to change my old habits of fertilizing 2 year..whether the plants needed it or not! Whistling ) and the whole epsom salt concept..sometimes I feel like my brain is going to explode if any new info is added to the vault!
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Jan 6, 2016 12:49 PM CST
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Name: Ibis
Florida, Orlando-ish (Zone 9b)
Region: Florida Tropicals Bromeliad Orchids Container Gardener Foliage Fan
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Thanks, Jim! Thumbs up
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Jan 6, 2016 1:16 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Perhaps it helps to see the structure of Chlorophyll. Magnesium is to Chlorophyll what Iron is to Hemoglobin.
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Jan 6, 2016 5:21 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Neat, Ursula. That also shows why plants need more Mg in winter than summer - weaker sunlight means they make more chlorophyll to feed themselves - that's why a lot of orchids go darker green in lower light.

Same as Jim, I put a heaping tablespoon in my 2gal. sprayer at least once a week. I combine it with fertilizer, except not when I use the high phosphorus "bloom booster" fert in spring. Haven't sprayed all mine with fungicide yet, but I think that's happening tomorrow.

It's great for a lot of your other plants too. Again, I spray it on, dissolved in rain water because my well water that I irrigate the garden with is high pH and has phosphorus in it, too. The phosphorus binds a lot of nutrients including magnesium, so it's not all available to plants.
Elaine

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Jan 16, 2016 10:17 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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This is a great info. I have a bag of Epsom salt and I didn't quite know how to use it.
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Jan 16, 2016 11:18 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Yep, just dissolve it in pure water and spray it on, your plants will all love you for it. Most plants here in Florida like some extra magnesium, because our heavy rains leach it out of the soil.

We got a good, heavy rain yesterday, early in the morning. My orchids are all out today and tomorrow but coming into the house again tomorrow night after a good spray with Epsom salts solution and mild fertilizer this morning. I'll spray the Vandas down with the hose again tomorrow before I bring them in, just because it's so much easier to do that outside than in.
Elaine

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Jan 16, 2016 11:59 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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Thank You! Ellaine! I will do the same.
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Jan 16, 2016 2:05 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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Elaine, that NOID I have that turned burgundy almost overnight is finally turning back to green.
It took 3 applications of the Epsom salts..and it looks so much happier now..Thanks for this great
growing tip!
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Jan 16, 2016 2:47 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
I have to give Ursula the credit. I had one little Catt that turned red like that very suddenly, and she advised me first to apply magnesium in the form of Epsom Salts.

Then just a few months ago I got Martin Motes' books about Florida orchid growing and he is a strong advocate of keeping the magnesium coming year 'round for orchids as long as they aren't dormant.
Elaine

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Jan 16, 2016 4:00 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
I tip my hat to you.
thank you Ursula ( oh wise one) for saving orchids...one pot at a time!
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Jan 16, 2016 5:17 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Oh boy!! Smiling *Blush*
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Jan 16, 2016 5:49 PM CST
Name: Prabhi Setty
Trinidad West-Indies
Hi Guys,
I grow lots of Phalenopsis orchids and do use Epsom salt at the rate 1 to 2 TBS of Magnesium sulphate ( commonly known as Epsom salt) just after flower spikes are about 2 to 3 inches tall, from my experience, the leaves looks healthy, turgid and flower spikes grow stronger.
My experience is based on my observation and reading an excellent a book a compilation of renowned growers and nursery men of the world( the title may be Phalenopsis cultivation by Bob Gordon).
Prabhi S
Note: Title of the Complied Book A World wide guide to cultivation of Phalenopsis Orchids by Bob Gordon
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Jan 16, 2016 5:55 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
Adeniums Roses Plumerias Orchids Miniature Gardening Hibiscus
Region: Florida Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Phrabi how often do you apply it after the flower Spikes are out?
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Jan 16, 2016 7:25 PM CST
Name: Prabhi Setty
Trinidad West-Indies
GigiPlumeria said:Phrabi how often do you apply it after the flower Spikes are out?


We apply only while the buds are forming.
Prabhi S

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