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Name: Karen
NM , AZ (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Jan 6, 2016 11:56 AM CST
I'm very glad to have found this forum! Our place in NM is teeming with insects that are unfamiliar to us.
Here is one that looked like a very fat, gross grasshopper on steroids.

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Name: Karen
NM , AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: New Mexico Region: Arizona Greenhouse Cactus and Succulents Adeniums Garden Art
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plantmanager
Jan 8, 2016 7:34 PM CST
Whistling Where have all the bug guys gone??? Green Grin!
Are any of you familiar with this ugly bug?
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jan 8, 2016 8:40 PM CST
Did Dave move this from another forum? I try to keep a watch for new posts in the ID forum.

It looks like Phrynotettix tshivavensis - Chihuahua Lubber

http://bugguide.net/node/view/205963/bgpage
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jan 8, 2016 8:49 PM CST
Distribution for subspecies Phrynotettix tshivavensis taosanus ..

http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/common/editTaxon/Distribut...

Distribution for subspecies Phrynotettix tshivavensis tshivavensis ..

http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/common/editTaxon/Distribut...

Phrynotettix tshivavensis taosanus is the only subspecies which mentions New Mexico ..

http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/common/basic/Taxa.aspx?Tax...
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Name: Karen
NM , AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: New Mexico Region: Arizona Greenhouse Cactus and Succulents Adeniums Garden Art
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plantmanager
Jan 8, 2016 9:20 PM CST
@JRsbugs. BTW, sorry for calling you a bug guy!
No, I posted it here. I do appreciate the ID and the links. I'd never seen this one before. looks like it might be 'taosanus'? Our place in NM has a lot of insects we've never noticed or seen in Arizona. Thank You!
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jan 9, 2016 7:28 AM CST
It's OK, you didn't say anyone was bad. Smiling

Whichever subspecies it might be, and distribution maps are not a hundred % accurate, they are all the same species Phrynotettix tshivavensis. Bugs don't know that humans put boundaries on maps, depending on where it was sighted there must be some overlap.
Name: Karen
NM , AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: New Mexico Region: Arizona Greenhouse Cactus and Succulents Adeniums Garden Art
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plantmanager
Jan 9, 2016 6:18 PM CST
I understand. Humans do it with everything! Smiling
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Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Jan 25, 2016 1:48 PM CST
Learning about the new kinds of flora and fauna must be daunting when you move to a different part of the country. I don't think I've seen that grasshopper here!
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