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Name: Lori Bright
San Luis Obispo, California (Zone 7a)
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LlamaLlori
Jan 22, 2016 8:46 AM CST
I have lots of trees, so... not a lot of sun.
EXCEPT AT THE TOPS OF THOSE TREES. Rolling my eyes.
So, anybody want to recommend sky-reaching roses?
Zuzu recommended Super Dorothy, (a disease resistant
version of Dorothy Perkins)
Any other ideas?
Any semi-drought tolerant ideas?
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jan 22, 2016 9:11 AM CST
Maybe climbing Cecile Brunner or New Dawn. ND is really thorny and could be too aggressive.
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jan 22, 2016 9:56 AM CST
If you don't mind thorns, how about Mermaid?
Porkpal
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jan 22, 2016 3:21 PM CST
Lori ...

There are a lot of roses that will scramble up trees.

The first photo in this link is a bansia rose in the Sacramento Historical Rose Garden

http://www.cemeteryrose.org/article/garden

Here are some photos in the ATP database of R. banksia lutea

Rose (Rosa banksiae f. lutea)

Any of the bansias will climb and cover trees like this and can handle heat are drought tolerant.

'New Dawn' is often suggested for this purpose, but I suggest you shy away from that rose because it does not like the central or southern California climates.

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Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Jan 22, 2016 4:18 PM CST
Uh oh. I didn't know Super Dorothy could get that big. It sounds like I have placed a rose in the wrong place once again. Mine is in with flowering plums and Russian Olives. No way could they compete with Super Dorothy if she is anything like New Dawn or Cecile Bruner. The poor iris in that bed won't last long either. When I hear "climber" or "rambler", I think arbor or trellis climbing, not tree climbing! yikes!
How would she respond to pruning to limit the size? I know NEw Dawn, Westerland, Autumn Sunset, and America do ok with some cutting back.
Darlow's Enigma and Paul's Himalayan Musk are assigned to trees by the pond, but neither has climbed more than 4' in 2 years.
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Name: Zuzu
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Jan 22, 2016 6:39 PM CST

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Super Dorothy can grow to 20 feet, but you can keep it pruned back to a more manageable height.
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Jan 27, 2016 11:16 AM CST
I've got a fortuniana that I have to keep slashing out of the trees. It really wants to climb...
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Name: Lori Bright
San Luis Obispo, California (Zone 7a)
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LlamaLlori
Jan 29, 2016 9:48 PM CST
Wow, what a great bunch of answers. Thanks so much! I love the Fortuniana and Darlow's Enigma, I don't have a white yet. Mermaid is a must, anybody grow Wedding Day or Coral Dawn?
I saw a picture of Maigold and it must have been over 20 feet. It has some nice strong color.
Roseblush1, why do you feel that our area is bad for New Dawn. Maybe Powdery Mildew prone?
I'm in Zone 7. (No coastal influence) Please, do tell, I'd love to hear. Thanks to all!
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jan 29, 2016 11:13 PM CST
Hi Lori ...

Most of my information about 'New Dawn' came from several rose friends that live in Socal and along the central coast. The consensus when ND was discussed was that it was prone to mildew and rust and that there are better climbers for your climate. Note: per the plantmaps zone 10a http://www.plantmaps.com/93401

You list your cold hardiness zone as 7a which would have average winter cold temps of 0 to 5F. Do you live in an area where there is a micro-climate that gets that cold ? If so, that could make a difference.
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Name: Sherry Austin
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Henhouse
Jan 30, 2016 12:05 AM CST
I'm zone 9b, on the Northern end of of the Central Coast near Santa Cruz, and don't have rust or mildew problems with my New Dawn... some Black Spot, but not a huge amount. I also grew it in Los Altos for many years with no problems. Both zones 9b, but different...

Belle of Portugal is another one that I've seen up trees around here..
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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jan 30, 2016 12:26 AM CST
Sherry ... My mom grew it when I was growing up in Los Gatos with no problems, either. I guess it is a rose that can be finicky about what climate it likes.
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CindiKS
Jan 30, 2016 10:52 PM CST
Coral Dawn is one of my all time favorites. I grew it on a pergola at my last house, but here, I can't get it to grow. I need to find a good vendor with it because the body bag versions are weak.
It grew up to 2nd story windows at the last house, so I ended up putting grapes on the pergola with it. Wish I could find a picture. Lovey dubby
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Name: Lori Bright
San Luis Obispo, California (Zone 7a)
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LlamaLlori
Jan 31, 2016 3:51 PM CST
Ooh, Coral Dawn is big! Thanks Cindi.
Roseblush1, I'm probably 7b. (Down to 10 degrees)
I live behind Lopez Lake in Arroyo Grande, CA. I'm in a really deep
canyon where no air wants to flow. (Terrible late frosts) I'm a lover
of Fruit Trees, what tough lessons the canyon has taught me.
Henhouse, yes, I think you're right, I NEED Belle of Portugal.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Jan 31, 2016 4:39 PM CST
Ooh, down to 10? I don't think Mermaid would survive.
Porkpal
Name: Lori Bright
San Luis Obispo, California (Zone 7a)
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LlamaLlori
Jan 31, 2016 6:04 PM CST
Porkpal, thanks for that. Having lived closer to the coast (and never checking
zones for roses) I forget that some are truly more tender than others.
I'd best go back and recheck my long list of intendeds. Confused
Name: Lori Bright
San Luis Obispo, California (Zone 7a)
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LlamaLlori
Jan 31, 2016 6:07 PM CST
CindiKS, Roguevalleyroses.com has the Coral Dawn. Only 19 bucks.
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jan 31, 2016 6:26 PM CST
I had a hunch your reported zone was due to micro-climate issues. You could be either 7b or 8a.

HMF says Mermaid is hardy to 7b, so you could take a chance on that rose.

Albéric Barbier or almost any hybrid wichurana they have the cold hardiness you need.

Baltimore Belle, Veilchenblau, Étoile de Hollande, Cl., Félicité et Perpétue, Iceberg, Cl., Paul's Lemon Pillar, Long John Silver.

No, I haven't grown these roses, but have only read about them.

Good luck. I know I would have a hard time choosing.

btw .. you might be able to grow stone fruit trees in your canyon.



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Name: Lori Bright
San Luis Obispo, California (Zone 7a)
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LlamaLlori
Feb 2, 2016 11:25 AM CST
Thanks for all the ideas Lyn. Yellow climbers are few and far between. I'll search for the Albéric Barbier for sure. I have Vielchenblau, she is intertwined with Yellow Lady Banks. When I bought this property I put in my fruit trees first. Apples, Pears, Persimmon, Figs(cold hardy), Pomegranate and most Plums do well. Unfortunately the canyon begins to warm in spring and then it freezes (hard sometimes). My Apricots, Nectarine, Peach and sometimes Plums and Cherries try to push and after sap leeks out the trunks, disease leeks right in. ARGH. Tough lessons. Back to roses, I'll have to get onto HMF and check into those other varieties you mentioned. Thanks so much for the suggestions. OMG, I just noticed where you live! I LOVE WEAVERVILLE. Not to mention that Weaver is my maiden name. We contemplated moving there. Don't know if I could handle the snow. Blinking Too Fun. Thank You!
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Feb 2, 2016 9:31 PM CST
You are welcome, Lori.

Let us know which roses you decide to add to your garden ... Smiling

Re: Snow ... I've only had to deal with what I consider serious snow twice since I moved up here in '04. At this elevation, snow only sticks around for a day or so. Of course, everything about living in the mountains is all about micro-climates. If you happen to live in a snow belt, you would be dealing with more snow than I have had in my garden.
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Feb 4, 2016 2:26 AM CST
Lori, I'm also a canyon dweller.. We don't get nearly as cold as you, but the stone fruits generally only live for a few years before they get gummosis, then die.. The exception is that darned disease-ridden genetic dwarf nectarine that keeps on keepin' on despite numerous ailments. But I'm surprised at how cold you get in central California.. I've always thought of Arroyo Grande as more temperate than Santa Cruz..
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