like that would EVER happen in my garden Thanks for the reminder goldfinch4 of what NOT to do

Yeah, doesn't happen here either.... as a consequence I move plants A LOT.

I hear ya Dutchlady.I made a new irisii patch this season that I'm reluctant to post on the irisii forum for just that reason

DIL just sent me photos of our house in Missouri and I have to ( Somehow!) teach my DH to visualize the mature sizes of trees and plants! I think that the first thing that we will have to do when/if we get back there is hire someone that has a chainsaw. ( (mumble-grumble) those trees sure were cute when they were babies and he really wanted them in that tiny front yard...)

Good advice that is hard to follow! I try to buy the smallest container size and then let it grow. I have been trying to put annuals or pots to fill in the spaces,but sometimes I just have to sneak something in...

Great idea...but that would take fore thought! I am the worst for a roller coaster garden because I don't think ahead!

Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. Therefore I have had to move some plants over the years.

When I first made my shade garden I left plenty of room between plants. It actually looked kind of silly for the first few years, but I was glad I did.

Sheila_FW said:Great idea...but that would take fore thought! I am the worst for a roller coaster garden because I don't think ahead!

"fore thought" .... is that like "planning" ? I've heard there are people who do that...

I have seen the new landscapes are made to have lots of spaces and actually look nice...Hard for a "crammer" to do though.

fiwit said:

"fore thought" .... is that like "planning" ? I've heard there are people who do that...

can you describe this thing you speak of

That is the hardest thing to do. My garden is all jam packed. One of the dumbest things I did was plant a monterey cypress 4 feet from my house. It was really cute for the first couple years. I had to work all day to dig it up and move it, it was so huge in just 3 years. And I did know better, I really cannot understand why I did it. So if that did not make me stop, what will?

canadanna said:I have seen the new landscapes are made to have lots of spaces and actually look nice...Hard for a "crammer" to do though.

I think most of us gardeners end up being "crammers"!

yes someone please explain "planning" and "forethought"...but in English not a foreign language

Webster says:
1: a thinking or planning out in advance : premeditation.
2: consideration for the future

Never happen at my house!