Plant ID forum: Brazilian tree from the Atlantic Forest..

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jan 31, 2016 2:39 AM CST
A particular thing about them is that the flower stems sprout from the tree trunk.
The trees can be gigantic, I don't have pictures from the foliage, their crowns are so high up preventing to see any details, and also when you look up you often can not distinguish who's foliage is who's, everything so entangled Hilarious!

These are from another tree from another trip long ago, from which I think is the same species..
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Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Moonhowl
Feb 5, 2016 3:37 PM CST
Myriam. are you familiar with William Wyat Thomas?

http://www.nybg.org/botany/ofn/OFN.html
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 5, 2016 4:14 PM CST
No Jean, I am not familiar with William Wyat Thomas..
I see the organisation is dedicated in inventorying the neotropical flora..
Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Feb 5, 2016 4:23 PM CST
It is my understanding that Dr Thomas is at the New York Botanical Garden, and is considered to be something of an expert on the Brazilian Atlantic Coastal Rain Forest. I thought perhaps some of the plants you have trouble finding an identity for may be included in some of his work. Possibly he has on-line reference information.

Every time I get a few minutes to spare I have been looking for matches for your tree. I thought a picture I ran across looked similar but it was a cocoa tree flower..
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 6, 2016 12:15 AM CST
Thanks Jean, I did some search around dr. William Wyat Thomas and found that his research work is focused on the coastal region of (Bahia, NE Brazil) a state above the Rio de Janeiro state (SE Brazil), where I found my trees..
Of course both states probably have a quite some species in common, unfortunately only a few pictures are put online..

http://www.nybg.org/bsci/res/bahia/Plant-im.html
Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Feb 6, 2016 10:24 AM CST
One of those plants we will stumble across perhaps. Sorry the link didn't help.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Feb 6, 2016 12:18 PM CST
Myriam, look at Guarea macrophylla ..

http://ornithologyexchange.org/articles/_/editor-s-choice/ed...

http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/plantguides/view.asp?chkbox=22137

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Guarea+macrophylla&tbm=isc...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Guarea+macrophylla&tbm=isc...
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Feb 6, 2016 2:04 PM CST
I had more to post but my computer is playing up. Rolling my eyes.

http://herbaria.plants.ox.ac.uk/vfh/image/index.php?item=801

Guarea macrophylla subsp. tuberculata is in Rio de Janeiro ..

https://sites.google.com/site/florasbs/meliaceae/catigua-mor...

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Guarea+macrophyl...
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Feb 6, 2016 5:12 PM CST
ATP is waiting for photos. Green Grin!

Guarea macrophylla subsp. tuberculata
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Feb 6, 2016 7:09 PM CST
nodding
Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California.
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Feb 7, 2016 1:18 AM CST
Wow, amazing! How did you came upon that Janet? Hurray!
You knew it was in the Meliaceae?
I had been searching in some families but that's a long time ago and I forgot which.. Rolling my eyes.
Guarea macrophylla subsp. tuberculata it will be! Thank You!
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Feb 7, 2016 2:15 AM CST
I agree Amazing!
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Feb 7, 2016 5:46 AM CST
I had done some searches already using words such as "trunk flowering tree Atlantic Rainforest", I also tried using additional words 'fruiting trees' and "nut flowers" but with no success. I really didn't think I was going to find it and almost gave up.

Yesterday I decided to go through the whole of plants listed for Brazil on the Tropical Plant Guides site:

http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/plantguides/view.asp?chkbox=22137

I hadn't a clue which family it was in, so I just selected Brazil and chose 400 results to a page, with 11 pages in the results.

I got part way down page 7 and began to feel search fatigue so I closed the site down thinking I wasn't going to find it. My computer arrow has a sharp double click (I've tried slowing it down) when I only click once and often closes two tabs at once , so to save me going through the process of opening the site and searching again I often create a new page of the site (Ctrl + N) and minimize it to the bottom bar.

I went off for a break, when I came back I realised the minimised page was still there and having already got my terrier teeth so deeply embedded in the subject there was only one way I could release my teeth. I opened up the minimised link, went to page 7 where I had left off, and continued. I found it not far from where I had left off on page 7!!!! Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Feb 7, 2016 7:53 AM CST
Oh I remember now I had been searching in the Brazilian families listed in the Fieldmuseum too, but I think I gave up with 'search fatigue' at the time.. Rolling my eyes.

Wow, that was a big job! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up
Amazing too you found it on the page where you had left! Hilarious!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Feb 7, 2016 8:04 AM CST
Thank the terrier. Rolling on the floor laughing

Thank You! Acorn Acorn Acorn Acorn Acorn Acorn Acorn Acorn nodding
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Feb 7, 2016 8:35 AM CST
JRsbugs said:Thank the terrier. Rolling on the floor laughing

Will do! Hilarious!

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