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Feb 13, 2016 4:45 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Ooh, I'm so jealous! I've only seen a Great Purple Hairstreak once in my life. For those who don't know, they use mistletoe as a host plant. There's this tree I drive by all the time, and in the winter when it loses most of its leaves, I can see the big ball of mistletoe in it. It's behind a fence but if I wanted, I could stand on the edge of the road and look up at it. I doubt it attracts the butterflies, though because they always mow around it and so there are no good weeds to nectar on.
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Feb 13, 2016 6:33 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Hum, we have mistletoe here..... I will be sure to keep my eyes peeled for the Great Purple Hairstreak.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 13, 2016 9:36 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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I've got mistletoe on the property, also. No little green caterpillars ever seen, however. The butterflies I saw today...Red Admirals, American Snout (first I've seen this season) and American Lady. No frits seen today.
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I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Feb 13, 2016 9:45 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Great Linda! Thumbs up
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 14, 2016 3:05 AM CST
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1st time I've even heard of a Great Purple Hairstreak! Nice looking BF. Are they closer to Hairstrak size or a swallowtail?
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Feb 14, 2016 5:40 AM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Jack, they're Hairstreak size for sure! But they are a rather large Hairstreak. If they were Swallowtail size I would lose my mind! The only one I saw was at a nursery up the road when I was buying my first Sweetbay Magnolia. The employee went to get a handcart to move the tree and Dad and I were just standing there when it landed on one the Magnolias! I would love to see another one, but if I'm remembering correctly, I think they're one that doesn't stray too far from their host plant. I don't see any of the Hairstreaks in my yard too often, anyway. More of a "hiking in the preserves" kind of butterfly.

I'm off to Starbucks and MOSI! Pictures later...
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Feb 14, 2016 6:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
But before I'm off MOSI-ing, Happy Valentine's Day to all the beautiful caterpillars out there!

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Feb 14, 2016 8:10 AM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Wow Linda, things sure are coming to life in your neck of the woods. Smiling I haven't seen a butterfly yet this year. I saw a great purple hairstreak once too. They are really pretty in person, the colorful tail really stands out! I got a picture, but as I've said sooo many times, it was a lousy picture. I need time to focus and too often these creatures just don't allow for that. Hilarious!
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

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Feb 14, 2016 12:29 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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In spring, those kind of hairstreaks are sometimes easier to photograph, especially when it's on blooms or something and a bit too windy to fly. But I don't think it's ever possible to get a pic of the upper sides of its wings. I've only gotten extremely brief glimpses when one is trying to fly and I just stubbornly keep stalking it. Then if I'm very very lucky I can see much more of that gorgeous shimmering blue! Don't know why it's called purple! My best pic from last year at least showed the gorgeous tail pretty good! And this is why I am so willing to take the time to stalk them. Most of the year I don't see them, also.
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I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Feb 14, 2016 2:06 PM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Beautiful picture, Linda! Lovey dubby
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

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Feb 14, 2016 6:22 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Okay, picture time! Most of these are from Friday. I just hadn't gotten around to posting them, yet. I only took a few today because it was the usual suspects. Plus, it was cold!

So I walk into the lab and there's a Monarch on the floor. I wrangled him and put him in the flight cage.

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Besides the floor, the first thing I do is check the chrysalis boxes to see who has emerged. You can see I had a few.

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As I was releasing the butterflies, I noticed a dead Malachite. If they're in good shape, I take them to the classroom where we have a microscope hooked up to a monitor where people can look at them up close. When butterflies die a natural death, they tend to bend their wings a little and their legs fold up. Don't know why. Seems better than being eaten alive, though.

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It was pretty cool so the butterflies were still just hanging out, like this Zebra Longwing.

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And the Malachites.

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The Polydamas was sitting on the screen...railing? What do you call those things?

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This Zebra Longwing had a little bit of a messed up wing, but I gave it a chance.

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Released a few Monarchs, including this male.

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And I had one emerge in the lab! Look how thick the body is. That's because it's swollen with fluids.

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Back in the lab, I was adding my Orange-Barred Sulphur cats to the tank and checked on my one chrysalis. I kept that one, though. More on him in a minute. You can tell it's going to be a male by the orange bar already visible.

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And back in the flight cage, a Malachite finally showed me some green.

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Today in the flight cage, I had three dead Polydamas. Natural causes, all of them. They went to the classroom to teach on in death. We've had them in the flight cage for a few weeks now so I like to think they lived a full life except they don't seem to be reproducing. I haven't found any eggs and we don't have any in the lab. The Monarchs and Zebra Longwings aren't reproducing much, either. I did find a few Monarch eggs. I wonder if the temperatures inhibit reproduction?

Well, anyway, here's a look at both sides of a Polydamas Swallowtail. Also called the "No Tail Swallowtail" and the "Gold Rim Swallowtail". I suppose you can see why.

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Now, back to Mr. Orange-Barred Sulphur. He came out late this afternoon which means he's spending the night with me. I didn't think he had enough time to get warmed up before he could fly and I'm not taking chances. We're supposed to have nice weather for the foreseeable future, so he should enjoy tomorrow quite well. It's really hard to get these guys to open their wings, but I tried to show the orange bar across the top wings. Only males have those. Females only have the orange on the bottom wings along with a series of gray-black dots.

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Feb 14, 2016 8:58 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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So beautiful, Melanie. Thank You! Great job!
Elaine

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Feb 17, 2016 7:09 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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I am soo ,, soo Grateful for this thread ,,,
All I get this time of year ,,is ..








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Feb 17, 2016 8:44 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Fluffy! Thumbs up
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Feb 18, 2016 12:31 PM CST
Name: Susan Johnston
OKC, OK (Zone 7a)
Hi, everyone! I'm a "rescue" from Houzz fka as Garden Web. I recognize Linda from that forum! I've been butterfly, moth, and critter gardening for about 17 years now. I particularly like the sphinx moths and have hand raised several species.

I love the photos of the Florida butterflies that we didn't get to see much of on the other forums. Thanks, Mellie!

I had a GPHS visit my garden once and took a bunch of photos. This guy really loved to pose, I guess! It was nectaring heavily on my Aster tartaricus 'Jindai'. A very good nectar plant in my garden at the time. They are so gorgeous - the colors are startlingly brilliant!

Looking forward to participating on the forum!

Susan
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Feb 18, 2016 6:35 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Welcome to ATP, @Susanlynne48! Glad to have you here! Hope you see lots of butterflies & moths this spring!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Feb 18, 2016 7:08 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Welcome to ATP & also to the butterfly thread Susan! Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! We're glad you found us and I'm looking forward to seeing your photos.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 18, 2016 8:35 PM CST
Name: Susan Johnston
OKC, OK (Zone 7a)
Thanks everybody! I hope I see lots of butterflies, too! I saw a little yellow yesterday. I think we may see lots of early arrivals this year. Our winter has been very mild and forecasters are predicting an early spring. It was almost 80 today! I read on Journey North that the Monarchs are already stirring in Mexico due to the unseasonably warm temps there. I am glad they had no freezing temps because they a population boost after last year.

I'm planting host and nectar plant seeds and ordering plants next week from Almost Eden, so hopefully I'll be ready.

Linda, I think we may get a lot of Monarchs this year. The weather just East of Texas and Central Oklahoma has been colder with a lot more precip so I expect an active central flyway.

Susan
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Feb 18, 2016 11:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Welcome, Susan! I'm totally biased, but we're the best forum on ATP. And dare I say the best thread? I should probably be impartial, and those birds folks are quite informative and friendly, but I love my butterflies. You've been doing it quite a bit longer than me! This year will be my ninth raising butterflies and moths. I welcomed you with some acorns so you can buy a badge if you want - maybe the butterfly one? Hilarious! Or whatever you choose. Be sure to fill out the info that shows in the top right corner of your posts because it really helps everyone to know where you are and what zone you garden in.

Things are a little slow right now, but I imagine they'll pick up. We've been having absolutely gorgeous weather here and yet all I want to do is tuck myself in bed and watch anime. Dad was outside yesterday and reported one Sulphur. Mom has been taking walks nearly every day to rehab her knee (which was replaced last year) and she hasn't had anything to report. But soon it should take off. I'm currently angry that someone mowed the ditch on the other side of the street. There were three host plants in that ditch! And the property behind us that sold last summer got mowed. I mean, every inch of it! Even the old homeowner would leave some stuff around the fence line and out toward the road, but we all fear they're getting ready to split the property into multiple lots. Thumbs down Developers always win in Florida, it seems.

My boss at MOSI said they got a huge plant shipment in this week and they are replanting lots of areas including the flight cage. We've got the host plants ready for whenever those butterflies want to show up!
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Feb 18, 2016 11:56 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Welcome! Susan, this is an awesome thread, and of course Melanie is our great guru and Moderator! Lovey dubby

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