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Name: Lisa Olson
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5601Lisa
Feb 5, 2016 5:31 PM CST
Best way to repot Clivia? Years-old plant, generously given to me. In fact, three plants in one single pot. None too happy. Suggestions?
Name: tarev
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tarev
Feb 5, 2016 6:51 PM CST
Can you tell us where you have the plant indoors, light direction (north, south, west, east), your watering regimen and the ambient temperature around the plant.

Typically the plant does not mind being in its container for a long time, seems happier actually, but it does prefer to be on the dry side, since it has such thick roots, so your planting media has to be very well draining too.

I got mine to bloom in late winter, after I gave it a cool dry rest for in late Fall. Temps then was at the range of 50 to 55F. Then I brought it indoors in January. I like this plant, so low maintenance and always lush looking as long as kept in shade and on the dry side.
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Feb 5, 2016 9:30 PM CST
Lisa, a picture of your plant would help us to help you. Clivias do seem to like to be fairly crowded in their pot to bloom well. Several crowns or fans of leaves in one pot is good. Like daylilies, agapanthus and other clump-forming plants, they seem to want to form a clump before they will bloom dependably.

I was given a single-fan plant by my kids as a gift some years ago, and it bloomed the year I got it, but has not ever bloomed again. I think it had been divided from a larger clump and had already made it's growth to bloom that year, but maybe it will bloom again now that it has several fans in the pot again.

If the leaves don't look healthy, it's possible that just adding some fresh potting soil and a dose of timed-release pelleted fertilizer in the spring would bring them back to their normal selves. I add a small handful of alfalfa pellets to mine each spring, as well. It's very healthy looking.

Like tarev, I am giving mine a cool, dry dormant period right now. Once our weather warms up in a couple of weeks I'll give it a little fertilizer and start watering it sparingly again.
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Name: Lisa Olson
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5601Lisa
Feb 6, 2016 12:53 PM CST
The medium is dry and looks healthy. Think the bulbs were planted too deeply?
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Feb 6, 2016 4:16 PM CST
Hm, I think they look ok. It's natural to lose a leaf or two in the winter. They aren't at all crowded in that pot either. When there are so many crowns in the pot that you can't see the soil, it's time to re-pot.

I'd leave them be for now, keep them on the cool and dry side for another month or so, then add a few handfuls of fresh potting mix to cover those rogue roots that are up out of the soil, and a teaspoon or so of slow-release plant food. Start watering more, keep them in bright shade and gradually warmer temps and see what happens.

Don't despair if they don't bloom this year. They look like fairly young plants to me and they are very slow growing at their best. Mine has some leaves that are nearly 2ft. long - this is the plant that hasn't bloomed for 3 years, but I have great hopes for this spring!
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sallyg
Feb 7, 2016 8:13 AM CST
I agree with the last post. They look perfectly fine and not in need of repotting. I keep mine cool and dry for winter. I think I have buds appearing on one of them. I divided a large one last year and have two individuals that do not have buds.
If yo want to repot, wait until spring.
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tarev
Feb 7, 2016 12:40 PM CST
Your plant still looks ok there Lisa..if it were mine, I will not repot yet either. There is a certain maturity it needs before it will bloom, usually they count the leaves, the more leaves, the more mature and ready it should be, provided all other cultural needs are met.
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sallyg
Feb 7, 2016 4:00 PM CST
I just noticed you said years-old. I'm surprised it only has what it has, if its years old. I think you should repot, in a couple months, and see what's going on down below. I'm concerned about the roots. Meanwhile, keep cool and on the dry side.
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gitagal
Feb 10, 2016 7:50 PM CST
I just wrote a very long reply about my first time dividing a Clivia. A 30 year old Clivia!!
Really long post--which would have giving you some insight in to this endeavor.

Then my finger hit something by the "shift--control? keys and my whole post went POOF!

WHY can't ATP (or DG) have a "DRAFTS" feature where if interrupted--the whole Post jumps int
this folder and can be retrieved.


Yooohooo, Dave!!!! This would really help. many of us have fat fingers that hit keys and then--
everything disappears and there is no way to get it back. Then I cry! All that typing I just did!!!! GONE!
Booooo----Hooooo---- Angry Confused Angry

Will try to re-do it tomorrow. Not now. Gita
Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Feb 10, 2016 11:41 PM CST
@5601Lisa - when you say "years old" how old are we talking? What exposure? Near a window? The plant does not look that bad to me either, nut it does not look like it is very old.
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Name: Lisa Olson
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5601Lisa
Feb 11, 2016 10:21 AM CST
The gardener who gave me the Clivia said she'd had it 2-3 years. Never bloomed. And the gardener who gave my friend the Clivia said she'd owned it 3-4 years before passing it along. Never bloomed for her either.
I'm willing to coddle the plant because It's cool looking. If it ever blooms.
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DavidLMO
Feb 11, 2016 6:47 PM CST
That does not look like a 7 YO Clivia.
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sallyg
Feb 11, 2016 9:19 PM CST
I totally agree David. Kind of mysterious. Anyway, I think we all agree, this looks healthy enough and just too young to bloom.
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Feb 11, 2016 9:53 PM CST
Well, maybe not too young, but too small at least. Lisa I think coddling is exactly what that plant needs. Big lusty new growth of leaves should be forthcoming if you can make the plant happy and then it will bloom.

If it doesn't start putting up some healthy new growth this spring, I think I would investigate inside the pot to see what the potting soil in there looks like. These plants really don't like to be disturbed, so if you can carefully slip it out of the pot to take a look at the roots, without too much disruption that will be the best. There should be a pot full of fat, white roots under there.

I've been amending all my pots with a handful or two of alfalfa pellets (horse food) this last year and everything seems to benefit a lot from that addition. It's a great soil texture improvement, and boosts the micro-organisms in the system as well as supplying a little bit of slow-release nitrogen. Can smell a little bit like a stable for a few days after I do it, so wait until the plant is outside if you want to try this. You'll be able to find a shady spot outside for it for the summer, won't you?
Elaine

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sallyg
Feb 11, 2016 9:57 PM CST
I transition mine to morning sun on the deck.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Feb 11, 2016 10:43 PM CST
dyzzypyxxy said:
I've been amending all my pots with a handful or two of alfalfa pellets (horse food) this last year and everything seems to benefit a lot from that addition.


Do tell. Where do you get?
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Feb 12, 2016 10:45 AM CST
Your local feed store has it in 50lb. bags for about $16. Great stuff! I got the tip from the folks over on the Daylilies forum - they use it a lot for daylilies (obviously) but I've expanded since I don't have that many and had to buy 50lb. I'm sure you have enough plants to use up 50lb. David, but for those who don't you can also buy alfalfa as rabbit food at pet stores in smaller packages. It's a lot more expensive though. Be sure it's not full of additives - you want straight organic alfalfa pellets.

So far everything has responded beautifully. Latest experiment, just before the holidays I amended some perennial plantings out front that are near my Lychee tree, and would you believe the Lychee has put out gorgeous shiny new dark green leaves in the last month, despite the wierd weather.
Elaine

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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Feb 12, 2016 6:00 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up I will have to give it a go. And yeah - 50 # would be fine for me. nodding
I honestly had never heard of using it. But I learn something every day. Which is one of the reasons that I value this site so much.
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Mar 31, 2016 8:34 PM CST
Shields Garden. they have all the info on clivia
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Mar 31, 2016 9:33 PM CST
gitagal said:I just wrote a very long reply about my first time dividing a Clivia. A 30 year old Clivia!!
Really long post--which would have giving you some insight in to this endeavor.

Then my finger hit something by the "shift--control? keys and my whole post went POOF!

WHY can't ATP (or DG) have a "DRAFTS" feature where if interrupted--the whole Post jumps int
this folder and can be retrieved.


Yooohooo, Dave!!!! This would really help. many of us have fat fingers that hit keys and then--
everything disappears and there is no way to get it back. Then I cry! All that typing I just did!!!! GONE!
Booooo----Hooooo---- Angry Confused Angry

Will try to re-do it tomorrow. Not now. Gita


Gita, I know very well the frustration of hitting some wrong key that ends up deleting the whole post...

if that happens, before hitting any other key, do a CTRL-Z (control key plus the Z key) right away and it will often restore what was deleted. I hope this works for you; it's saved me a lot of mental anguish! Smiling

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