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Oct 13, 2016 11:19 AM CST
central Illinois
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Pic looks like Purple Hyacinth Bean vine.
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Oct 13, 2016 5:29 PM CST
Name: kathy
Michigan (Zone 4b)
near St. Clair MI
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You are right, jmorth. The passion vine is flanked by the hyacinth vine. Not a good picture for the example. Good eye.
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Oct 13, 2016 6:02 PM CST
central Illinois
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Oct 14, 2016 1:44 PM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
Hands down... Zinnias! I used to hate those things. You could not pay me to grow one. When I moved here I bought about 5 dreamland zins. We were new to this area and the one nursery we had sold them. It was really about all that was available at the time. They turned out so beautiful that I wondered how I went all these years without planting zinnias. Then I joined garden webs forum. A man by the name of ZenMan had a thread about zinnias. I went through that thread and the absolutely amazing things he breeds is just awe inspiring for me. He has inspired me enough to collect zinnia seeds. Don't be fooled, I don't just collect, I grow. I had over 15 different zins in my gardens this year alone. I really never knew how beautiful, surprising and easy they were to grow. One of these days I will definitely do my own breeding. I'm still waiting on my greenhouse, lol. And a huge thank you to Zenman for opening my world and showing me the way.

Other than that, my next truly fave things to grow are cleome, snapdragons, pentas (this year cultivated my love of that plant), petunias (must be frilly grandifloras), celosias, gerbera daisies, gazanias and roses.
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Oct 14, 2016 5:25 PM CST
Name: ZenMan
Kansas (Zone 5b)
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KarenHolt said:Hands down... Zinnias! ... Don't be fooled, I don't just collect, I grow. I had over 15 different zins in my gardens this year alone. I really never knew how beautiful, surprising and easy they were to grow. One of these days I will definitely do my own breeding. I'm still waiting on my greenhouse, lol. And a huge thank you to Zenman for opening my world and showing me the way.
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Wow, Karen! That is so nice to hear that. If you are already saving seeds from your favorites, you are already breeding zinnias. But I hope you will start cross pollinating them, because that is key to getting new forms. And it is quite easy to do.

If you haven't already been growing them, I recommend that you include some Whirligigs in your mix. They have several things to recommend them. They are derived from inter-species hybridization between Zinnia elegans and Zinnia haageana and any crosses between Whirligigs and your other zinnias automatically inherit the name Zinnia hybrida. And most of them contain two or three colors on each petal.
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They have other features as well. Some of them have a "toothy" appearance on their petal ends, and cross-pollination can transmit that toothy effect to solid-colored zinnias.
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By crossing different "toothy" specimens together, a few of the progeny can have enhanced toothiness.

Toothy petal ends are just one of the things you can look for and breed for in zinnias. You never know when you will find a really weird looking zinnia.
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ZM
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Oct 14, 2016 8:36 PM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
Zenman,
I'm hoping this next season to start cross pollinating them. Although I have been planting zins, I never planted as many as I did this year. Part of the reason was because they grow so quickly and my hubby has a habit of taking my flowers out and I need quick replacements. Nothing does that like a zinnia. The other part was I wanted plenty of seed to start this project. I do not have whirlygigs planted yet. I've been mulling over whether I should plant them next year and it seems you've just convinced me yet again when it comes to zins.

This year I planted the lilac and peach zinderellas. I had the oddest one pop up that was just truly gorgeous. Sadly no pics as my computer blew up and took all my pics with it but this turned out to be more of a carnation type zinnia. It was a cream with peach picotee edgings. That gave me the fever to speed things up a bit. Somehow I think this winter I will spend a great deal more time here and at GW going through your posts. You've had some really great information for me and really, whether or not I have a greenhouse is moot. I live in a warm area where I have a wee bit more time to grow and start again than others. Thank you so much for the inspiration. And your zinnias are just beautiful.

It's not just color that does it for me with the zinnias. It's the many forms you have been able to produce. As in the last pic on the right. Who knew that cross pollinating zinnias would do this? To me, that flower is lovely for the toothy petals simplicity. I want to do that too. You have had so many that you didn't care for but I would be thinking, why? It's beautiful. But the more I read, the more I understand what it was you didn't like about it. I have alot to learn, but somehow I think I've found the right teacher.
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Oct 15, 2016 5:47 PM CST
Name: ZenMan
Kansas (Zone 5b)
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KarenHolt said:I'm hoping this next season to start cross pollinating them. Although I have been planting zins, I never planted as many as I did this year. ... This year I planted the lilac and peach zinderellas. I had the oddest one pop up that was just truly gorgeous. Sadly no pics as my computer blew up and took all my pics with it but this turned out to be more of a carnation type zinnia. It was a cream with peach picotee edgings.

Welcome! Hi Karen,
Too bad about the computer crash. It sounds like that unusual Zinderella may have been a mutation. Hope you saved seeds from it, or do save seeds from it. I plan to grow Zinderellas next year.
KarenHolt said: ... whether or not I have a greenhouse is moot. I live in a warm area where I have a wee bit more time to grow and start again than others.

I agree. You don't have to have a greenhouse to breed your zinnias. I have never had a greenhouse, although I do grow a limited number of zinnias indoors in the basement under fluorescent lights during the Winter.
KarenHolt said: It's not just color that does it for me with the zinnias. It's the many forms you have been able to produce. As in the last pic on the right. Who knew that cross pollinating zinnias would do this? To me, that flower is lovely for the toothy petals simplicity. I want to do that too.

It wasn't just cross pollinating alone that produced that result. It was growing F2 generations from F1 hybrids, and re-crossing selected specimens from those F2's. It is in the F2 generation that there is a good opportunity for recombinations of genes to occur, and produce new results. And crossing those new results with other new results can lead to further new forms. The number of different things you can do with zinnias is kind of mind boggling. And it isn't always just you -- sometimes the zinnias themselves come up with unexpected surprises that can take you off in a new direction. Occasionally I see an asymmetric bloom that suggests that nice looking blooms don't have to be perfectly round.
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Once you start saving seeds from your F1 hybrids, you can expect some surprises. As they say, "expect the unexpected."

ZM
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Oct 20, 2016 7:57 AM CST
Name: Britnay
Detroit Mi (Zone 6a)
Oh! What's that?! ....oops...
I like to mix up my annuals every year and try a new one. I love my petunias though. I get those every year.
This year I tried my hand in marigolds for my veggie garden, sunflowers, daisies and geraniums. I'm quite pleased with how they all grew.
I also "rescued" some other flowers late in the season.... just because they looked good. Lol

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Lord please let this seed not be a weed!
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Oct 20, 2016 8:02 AM CST
Name: Britnay
Detroit Mi (Zone 6a)
Oh! What's that?! ....oops...
Zenman.

Oh my goodness! I'm drooling over here! Those are gorgeous! Drooling

Good job on those!
Lord please let this seed not be a weed!
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Oct 29, 2016 5:33 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
I agree completely about the Zinnias. I grew 3 different varieties this year and they were all wonderful! The Pinwheel Zinnias might have been my favorite. The multiple colors were great!
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Oct 30, 2016 1:35 AM CST
Name: ZenMan
Kansas (Zone 5b)
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Your Pinwheel zinnias are immune to Powdery Mildew. That is a good thing. The Zaharas and Profusions are other strains of zinnias that are immune to Powdery Mildew. I grow Zinnia elegans and Zinnia hybrida, which are not immune to Powdery Mildew. So I occasionaly spray my zinnias with a systemic fungicide to prevent Powdery Mildew and a couple of other zinnia diseases.

This is a picture of a couple of my breeder zinnias.
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ZM
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Oct 31, 2016 3:51 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
I grow from purchased seeds so my selection is limited. But I also try to be low maintenance, so self-hardiness is good.

A few years ago, I really liked salvias (and there are still a few self-seeded ones around. But I think Zinnias and Marigolds will do for a few more years. The nice thing about annuals is that you can change your mind from year to year.
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Nov 12, 2016 9:34 PM CST
Name: Gary
Wyoming MN (Zone 4a)
Potted petunias and geraniums still looking good. They haven't had any protection, but one seems touched by frost last night. Last 2 nights have been pretty cold.
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Nov 12, 2016 10:55 PM CST
Name: ZenMan
Kansas (Zone 5b)
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All of my outdoor zinnias are frozen dead. Sighing! I'm still saving zinnia seed from my outdoor breeders, and starting some of the prep work to start an indoor zinnia project.
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Feb 11, 2017 2:19 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
I have accumulated packets of "self-sowing" annuals for a cottage garden. Do you think it is better to scatter them on a half inch of compost directly in the new garden, or better to grow individual plants in cell packs inside under lights to get the whole thing started. I have lots of room on shelves in the basement under lights and by the deck door exposed on racks to natural south light.
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Feb 11, 2017 2:22 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
But as far as "favorite annuals", I have to go with zinnias. I think I planted about 100 sq ft of 3 varieties last year. Red salvias might be second. Marigolds are good too.

I favor easy and long bloom... LOL!
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Feb 11, 2017 5:22 AM CST
Name: Jai or Jack
WV (Zone 6b)
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Zinnias are my favorite annuals. I have bred them off-and-on, mostly inadvertently (without any specific goal), for years. Some years I keep 0 seeds and just start over. There are tons of varieties and they're easy and fun. I'm currently growing them indoors and plan to plant lots outside later this spring.

That said, I also have a soft spot for marigolds--the regular French/African kind--and they are also my favorite annual. The smell of a crushed marigold leaf takes me back to childhood in a microsecond. And the flowers with such deep, rich, shades or burgundy, orange, and cinnamon make me want to wear them in my hair and chant Hare Krishna all day long. They go well in bouquets (some years I do a marigolds-only arrangement of different colors) and they are extremely easy to grow despite their long and thin delicate-looking seeds. A guy I used to date bought me some seeds as a present one year and even though we're no longer together, I still grow them.

That said, poppies are also my favorite annual. I love the breadseed (opium) poppies for their seeds (I'm fat and I love the eastern European poppyseed rolls). Their glaucous leaves speak to me for reasons I have never understood. I love the ephemeral and impermanent blooms of the double Shirley poppies--they tease the viewer with the utmost refined grace and delicacy, and then POOF they're gone until next year. I love the hardiness and eye-shocking color of the Icelandic poppies.

That said, Tithonias are also my favorite annual. I first encountered these as an adult when I was living in a really hot part of the country. An old abandoned church with a razor wire fence had them growing all along the side of the fence. The plants would reach eight feet tall and each year I would collect seeds not being quite sure what they were. The shade of orange is HARSH and in-your-face in a way that few other oranges are (the common daylily comes close). They are good for arranging in mixed bouquets and they are extremely easy to grow.

That said, sweet peas are also my favorite annual. When I lived in the south I could not grow them because it got too hot too soon. Here in PA it stays cool long enough into the summer that I can have blooms until June or July. The fragrance takes me back to old Victorian Europe (or what I have read about in novels). They are also extremely pretty--something they don't get a lot of credit for. I find their shape to be somewhat reminiscent of orchids.

That said, pansies/violas/heartsease are also my favorite annual. I love the vast array of forms and sizes and colors that they come in and I also love the way they smell--FUN FACT ALERT--these flowers produce a chemical in their fragrance which means that after you smell them, you can't smell any other flowers for certain amount of time. They do this to "paralyze" your nose and keep you from going to other flowers. That's how they're pollinated. They also taste delicious and look super gourmet floating on a bowl of soup.

That said, cosmos is also my favorite annual. When I lived in Kentucky these used to grow wild in an old exposed "smoking area" on a derelict building in the inner city of Louisville. They were bright, bushy, and profuse with their blooms at least until November every single year. And they reseeded themselves. The goldfinches loved them. I think of cosmos (of any color or size) as roughly analogous to poppies in the way you can arrange them--very carefully, and for short periods of time because they are delicate--but cosmos have a MUCH longer bloom time than poppies.

That said, I also love nasturtiums very much, particularly the small, bushy, varieties, and the varieties with mottled leaf patterns. I don't usually like variegation in plants but there's something about the big, round, lilypad-looking variegated leaves of the old-fashioned "Alaska" variety that really makes me smile. The leaves are delicious on a sandwich with tomato, mayonnaise, and cheese. The flowers are edible, too, but I always find them so pretty. These guys grow in super poor soil--in fact, rich soil will produce fewer flowers. And, their seeds are weird-looking. Every year I study them very closely even though I've seen them many times before. They're a fun flower.

That said, I also love portulaca (moss rose). I grow these every year, as well. Sometimes if I let a flower pot dry out and it's 5,000ยบ outside, these are the only things still living. Their leaves are semi-succulent so they actually prefer dry, hot, conditions. Their flowers open and close each day so they can look "raggedy" after they're done but the seed pods are extremely tiny little bowls full of seeds open for the wind (or birds) to disperse. I think their seed caps are under-rated.

That said, OMG I'm late for work.
Keep going!
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Feb 11, 2017 7:23 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Nice to see you have just one favorite annual. ;) But I know what you mean. I change every few years. And sometimes it depends on the weather. What does great one year doesn't do so well the next. Variety is my "favorite". Hurray!
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Feb 11, 2017 8:37 AM CST
Name: Elena
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I noticed a lot of Spring blooming annuals haven't been mentioned. They are my favorites!

Must-haves for me are pansies (color & cold tolerance)
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and sweet peas (fragrance)

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And for those who grow Spring bulbs, you know how awful the foliage looks after blooming. Annuals are great for covering it up! Try these:
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This year I'm trying Godetia since I got a ton of seeds in seed swaps. I've already got a few seedlings!
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Feb 11, 2017 8:42 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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I noticed a lot of Spring blooming annuals haven't been mentioned. They are my favorites!

Must-haves for me are pansies (color & cold tolerance)
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and sweet peas (fragrance)

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And for those who grow Spring bulbs, you know how awful the foliage looks after blooming. Annuals are great for covering it up! Try these:


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Linaria

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Nemesia

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Forget-Me-Not (Myosotis)

This year I'm trying Godetia since I got a ton of seeds in seed swaps. I've already got a few seedlings!

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