Past Plants of the Day forum: Salvia of the Day: Autumn Sage (Salvia greggii 'Teresa')

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 22, 2016 6:01 PM CST
Today's plant of the day for Salvias is Autumn Sage (Salvia greggii 'Teresa').

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Autumn Sage (Salvia greggii 'Teresa') .

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Autumn Sage (Salvia greggii 'Teresa')
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 22, 2016 6:22 PM CST
I haven't grown this salvia yet, but as I look at those pics of the flowers that Dave posted, the more I like it. Beautiful and interesting flowers.
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Name: Ronnie
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luvsgrtdanes
Feb 22, 2016 6:22 PM CST
This is another that I ordered to grow as an annual. Hoping it does well in a pot and I see those pretty pink and white flowers.
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WardDas
Feb 23, 2016 6:50 AM CST
The flowers are rather small. It was in my home garden for 5 or 6 years and was pretty hardy. For some reason hummingbirds completely ignored it.
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Marilyn
Feb 23, 2016 1:20 PM CST
Ward,

Good to know (regarding both statements). I'll probably pass up on it.

Thanks for sharing your info.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Feb 23, 2016 5:12 PM CST

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I met the introducer (Dave Steinbrenner) about 10 years ago and visited his home and saw the original plant that this cultivar came from. It's a nice and delicate S. greggii that I've enjoyed growing.
Name: Sherry
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wcgypsy
Feb 23, 2016 5:41 PM CST
Oh, I love that one...that and Dancing Dolls.....have to have them both again.
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Marilyn
Feb 24, 2016 1:12 AM CST
Thanks @Dave for your info. Do you think the flowers are on the small size? Have you had any hummers visit the flowers every year, since you've own it?
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Feb 24, 2016 7:14 AM CST

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I don't remember seeing hummingbirds on it and the blooms were typical size of the greggii species.
Name: Kermit Carter
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FBTS
Feb 24, 2016 10:33 AM CST
Dave is right - the flowers size of this one is typical of the species. But the rub is that very few true S. greggii varieties are in cultivation. The vast majority have some S. microphylla genetics in them. The range of these two overlap, and both in the wild and in cultivation they cross promiscuously. So many of the plants that are offered as S. greggii are actually S. x jamensis, the name of the hybrids having S. greggii and S. microphylla in their background.

Why is this? Well for one S. greggii in general are far more cold hardy than S. microphylla. So companies like Ball who released and promoted Salvia greggii 'Radio Red', which is actually a S. x jamensis and not a S. greggii, I suppose to influence customer perception of the degree of hardiness. In many cases the party who develops / sells one of these is not aware of this distinction. So the naming gets more and more confused.

We believe Teresa is a true Salvia greggii.


Name: Sherry
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wcgypsy
Feb 24, 2016 10:56 AM CST
Thank you for the info, kermit
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WardDas
Feb 24, 2016 11:14 AM CST
It has always seem like a hardiness dance between the two species. Greggii does seem more cold hardy but microphylla impresses me as slightly more winter moisture tolerant. That is all probably a warped eastern perspective. I have also suspected that greggii from West Texas might be hardier than ones that originated in Mexico. That may just be because the two I am most familiar with, Wild Thing and White are from Texas.
Name: Kermit Carter
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FBTS
Feb 24, 2016 5:51 PM CST
Good observation, Ward. S. greggii are native to dry places, S. microphylla very much less so. Not that they can't handle some dry, just that they like water (including winter water) more. Breeding forward with complex S. x jamensis one of the goals is "as cold hardy as greggii, as tough as microphylla".

Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 24, 2016 10:02 PM CST
@FBTS

I agree Thanks for your information Kermit. Always good to know.
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WardDas
Feb 26, 2016 7:49 AM CST
That is what I have been looking for Kermit. I have one that fits the bill and this year I am passing it along to a NJ native plant wholesaler to she what she thinks.
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Marilyn
Feb 26, 2016 10:29 AM CST
Ward

Wonderful! Good luck and let us know how things turnout.
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