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Apr 27, 2016 1:51 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Jim,
I discovered the wild Lily Patch some years ago and knowing that our Cyp acaule in Pennsy always bloom together with them, I then took a closer look. I almost flipped my lid when I saw them .
I have been tracking them now at least 7 years. They have shifted a bit upwards on their slope, but they have not diminished in numbers. Imagine, this is right on a bike path. I am happy nobody sees them, or they would surely be gone by now.
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Apr 27, 2016 2:00 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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gorgeous! We had both of these at my childhood home just west of Boston..this photo brings back fond memories of picking the lilly of the valley...we never touched the ladies slippers though!
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Apr 27, 2016 3:20 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Ursula, is there a native plant society that could keep an eye on them? Our local group keeps track of special plant populations and stays aware of development that might compromise the colony. Often they will rescue a portion and move them to a known "safe" spot.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Apr 27, 2016 5:14 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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I honestly don't know, Alice. I never looked into that, either here in NJ or at our place in Pennsy.
So far, all the places were we see "plants of value" seem fairly save. Today's posted stand is pretty invisible to most people, you really have to know what you are looking for. And it is not in any danger of being bulldozed, the slope is way to steep and houses are much set back.
We similarly discovered a gigantic stand of Spiranthes cernua on Rt 380 in PA some years ago. In a good year one might see more than a thousand blooming Orchids on a slope right next to the highway. Luckily it is too steep to be mowed!! I would be afraid giving out the exact location, fearing that people might start digging.
To the stands of Cyp acaule and other Orchids at our Pennsy place - they are so well hidden, it took US some years to find exact locations. Comparing it to needles in haystacks is about right. Sometimes we protect rarer emerging plants with a cage, so the Deer don't nibble them away.
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Apr 27, 2016 8:47 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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You're right not to give the locations! People will poach anywhere there aren't guards 24/ 7.
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Apr 28, 2016 5:22 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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That is why our native plant groups rescue some and replant in the most protected spots. They never want the whole colony to be lost to some wacko. We have a terrible problem with the poaching of our native carnivorous plants here. If there weren't some hidden away and protected the whole species would be gone.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Apr 28, 2016 9:02 AM CST
Name: Roberta
Cherokee Village, Ark (Zone 7a)
Irises Orchids Region: Tennessee
Well here is a walk in Cherokee Village, Ar. yesterday, you can see Iris that were planted about 50 years ago. Many heirlooms and unk varieties but attest to hardiness since this was an old gravel pit and cleared timber wasteland in 1950.

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Apr 28, 2016 11:40 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Your park is really nice, Bert. Who maintains it?

Jim
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Apr 28, 2016 2:34 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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That is a lovely park and that Buckeye is a WOW.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Apr 28, 2016 4:59 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Pretty park to take a walk! Thumbs up
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Apr 28, 2016 7:14 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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Really nice, Bert. Love those irises. I just got home from my "other" garden in Salt Lake City where the irises are just starting to put up buds. Now I have to bug my daughter to send me pictures of all the gorgeous iris I've bought and planted for her.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Apr 30, 2016 8:20 AM CST
Name: Roberta
Cherokee Village, Ark (Zone 7a)
Irises Orchids Region: Tennessee
I don't think anyone has done anything but rake this area in quite a while. I don't see any newer var of anything. A lot of memorial stones, after all this is an old retirement village.
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Apr 30, 2016 11:45 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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On my walk through the Chalk Creek yesterday, I spotted some Desert Peach in full bloom. I have been trying for 3 years to start one and haven't succeeded yet. The desert is GREEN this year - I don't think I have seen it this lush in quite a few years.

Bitterbrush - native to the west coast
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Desert Peach - native to the east side of the Sierra Nevada mountains
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The green desert
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Creek Dogwood - native to the west coast
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Daisy
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

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Apr 30, 2016 11:50 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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The desert sure is gorgeous when it's green, isn't it. The desert peach is lovely, does it bear fruit?

The mountainsides around Salt Lake are very green this year, too. They've had rain almost every day for the last week. (I'm really happy about this because I planted a whole lot of stuff in my daughter's garden that might have dried out without the rain)
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Apr 30, 2016 11:56 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
Not all who wander are lost
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The fruit is like an almond: thin husk, hard as a rock shell and a little nut in the middle. The rabbits love them.

I was going to ask you if the Utah desert was green this year.

Daisy
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

President: Orchid Society of Northern Nevada
Webmaster: osnnv.org
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May 14, 2016 7:30 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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This is a sad post that even brings tears to my eyes. Citrus greening has wiped out almost all of the citrus in central Florida. This includes the commercial groves as well as garden growers like myself. What you see here is the remains of the last citrus grove in my neighborhood. Sad, so sad.
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Jim
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May 14, 2016 7:50 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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That's so sad, Jim! Our orange groves went to developers years ago, but the county has put traps in my lemon tree twice now. They never say why or what the results are. That lemon tree was old when I moved here 28 years ago, and I'm getting a lot of silver skinned lemons lately. I don't know if it's citrus silver mites or citrus greening, but it seems to be getting worse. No problem with the lime...yet.
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May 14, 2016 8:09 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
yes, sad indeed...and there's nothing to be done, other than cut the trees and burn them?
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May 14, 2016 8:18 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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That is a truly distressing sight.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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May 14, 2016 8:55 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Happily, there is hope on the horizon for a remedy for citrus greening. It won't save the currently infected trees though. We'll have to re-plant but at least new trees may not become infected. You never know, it may save some of the commercial groves in California and Texas anyway.

My key lime has pretty much given up the ghost, and my little kumquat is hanging on but not looking good. I asked the Extension expert, Gene McEvoy last time he was at our office what to say when people have a tree that's infected and he said "I'm just keeping mine going as long as it will survive". The disease is so widespread now that the boffins have given up trying to arrest the spread by making people cut their trees down.

Your trees may yet die of old age, Carol.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill

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