Irises forum: Iris Afterglow

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Name: Jolana
Mountain City, Tx (Zone 8b)
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froggardener
Mar 9, 2016 6:45 PM CST
I have a question about this Iris that came from my gmother and gfather's garden, back in the mid 70's when my gmother passed. It started out more of a muted lavender and every year it is more of a violet color. It is interesting to see photos of them from friends I have shared with, they're all different colors
I have tried googling the color change but have only found info saying they don't change colors.
I know that to be false
Any ideas? I am looking thru cd's of older garden photos to find original pix before I post the latest
Thanks for any info
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Name: Mary Ann
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Muddymitts
Mar 9, 2016 6:58 PM CST
Hi Jolana -- welcome to the Iris forums here at ATP!! We're always happy to see new members!! Welcome!

It's true that Irises don't change colors. That's because each increase from the mother rhizome is actually a *clone* of the mother. There can be minor changes as a given bloom ages, but those changes should be consistent with each bloom.

Usually -- when Irises are said to change colors, what has happened is one of two things:

First -- another Iris has invaded the rhizome space of the Iris in question, and the rhizomes of the second Iris are dug up under the belief that they belong to the first Iris.

Second -- a bee pod was formed and the seeds self-sowed, creating an entirely different Iris that grows where the first one grows.

It is true that a given Iris grown in more than one location can have some color differences based on soil, weather and care, etc. But these disimilarities are generally not extravagant.

Hope this information is helpful to you. Smiling
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Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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crowrita1
Mar 9, 2016 6:59 PM CST
http://www.historiciris.org/listings/afterglow/

Is this your iris ? I've found that many iris....and the older, "blends", especially.....show a large color difference between "freshly opened" and what they look like, even at the end of the first day. Also , whether the sun is out, or whether it's overcast, can make them seen to be a "different color".
Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 9, 2016 7:23 PM CST
Thanks for the welcome Smiling

Even if planted with other irises, they were still separated and I always tagged them while blooming before sharing.

@crowrita1, I have seen some that I shared that pale but mine have always had a tad more violet
I know they are afterglow, they were tagged by gmother and one of her journals mentions them as an anniversary present from gfather in 1920
Thank y'all so much for responding
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 9, 2016 7:40 PM CST





The first pic is 2009 and the second is last year

I'm still looking for more
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Name: Mary Ann
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Muddymitts
Mar 9, 2016 9:13 PM CST
The color on the second photo is glorious.............
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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grannysgarden
Mar 9, 2016 9:44 PM CST
welcome to the iris forum, Jolana. You are getting great responses so far. If the color change is significant I would think, as Mary Ann said, a bee pollinated a flower and the seeds scattered among the known rhizome and grew. Sometime on the older irises the children look similar to the parent plant and the new plants can be more hardy and actually smother out the parent plant. It is important to remove the seed pods in order to keep this from happening. Sometimes this is hard to do if you grow a lot. Good luck with sorting this out. It is a lovely iris.
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 9, 2016 10:52 PM CST
Thank you Bonnie, It is my favorite by far. I have never let them go to seed
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Name: Sherry Austin
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Henhouse
Mar 9, 2016 11:15 PM CST
Welcome Jolana!
If you're like me, relying on memory isn't always, um, reliable Hilarious! Pictures can show a range of colors depending on the time of day they're taken, or variables within different cameras. Also, as some flowers age their color can fade. I just looked back and see I'm repeating what Arlyn said.. *Blush* So.. I'll just say welcome again.
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Name: Jolana
Mountain City, Tx (Zone 8b)
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froggardener
Mar 9, 2016 11:36 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing truer words were never spoken. I'll just leave it alone and continue enjoying it, no matter what color it is, nodding
Thank you
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Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
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janwax
Mar 10, 2016 10:19 AM CST
Welcome! Jolana!
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iciris
Mar 10, 2016 2:00 PM CST
Another Welcome! Jolana
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Mar 10, 2016 4:41 PM CST
Glad to see you!
Name: Mary Ann
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Muddymitts
Mar 11, 2016 4:57 AM CST
Jolana -- there is no photograph of Afterglow in the database -- I wish you would add yours there............... Smiling
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Name: Jolana
Mountain City, Tx (Zone 8b)
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froggardener
Mar 11, 2016 6:15 PM CST
As soon as I get home I will do that Smiling
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arilbred
Mar 13, 2016 9:15 AM CST
No one has mentioned PH quick can greatly effect color saturation and can vary greatly across your property
Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 13, 2016 4:58 PM CST
That would explain why the ones I shared are so different
Thank you @arilbred
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arilbred
Mar 14, 2016 4:53 PM CST
You are welcome
Name: Marilyn
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Moiris
Mar 14, 2016 5:54 PM CST
Welcome! Jolana! Stop in and visit us whenever you have the time! Big Grin
Name: Jolana
Mountain City, Tx (Zone 8b)
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froggardener
Mar 19, 2016 7:35 AM CST
I found another photo but I couldn't upload it to database, it said it was too small or wrong format, so I will try to post it from here

Thumb of 2016-03-19/Jolana/0224ed

It worked !!! Thanks again for all your info!

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