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Mar 9, 2016 6:45 PM CST
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Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
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I have a question about this Iris that came from my gmother and gfather's garden, back in the mid 70's when my gmother passed. It started out more of a muted lavender and every year it is more of a violet color. It is interesting to see photos of them from friends I have shared with, they're all different colors
I have tried googling the color change but have only found info saying they don't change colors.
I know that to be false
Any ideas? I am looking thru cd's of older garden photos to find original pix before I post the latest
Thanks for any info
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Mar 9, 2016 6:58 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Hi Jolana -- welcome to the Iris forums here at ATP!! We're always happy to see new members!! Welcome!

It's true that Irises don't change colors. That's because each increase from the mother rhizome is actually a *clone* of the mother. There can be minor changes as a given bloom ages, but those changes should be consistent with each bloom.

Usually -- when Irises are said to change colors, what has happened is one of two things:

First -- another Iris has invaded the rhizome space of the Iris in question, and the rhizomes of the second Iris are dug up under the belief that they belong to the first Iris.

Second -- a bee pod was formed and the seeds self-sowed, creating an entirely different Iris that grows where the first one grows.

It is true that a given Iris grown in more than one location can have some color differences based on soil, weather and care, etc. But these disimilarities are generally not extravagant.

Hope this information is helpful to you. Smiling
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Mar 9, 2016 6:59 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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Is this your iris ? I've found that many iris....and the older, "blends", especially.....show a large color difference between "freshly opened" and what they look like, even at the end of the first day. Also , whether the sun is out, or whether it's overcast, can make them seen to be a "different color".
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Mar 9, 2016 7:23 PM CST
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Name: JoJo
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Thanks for the welcome Smiling

Even if planted with other irises, they were still separated and I always tagged them while blooming before sharing.

@crowrita1, I have seen some that I shared that pale but mine have always had a tad more violet
I know they are afterglow, they were tagged by gmother and one of her journals mentions them as an anniversary present from gfather in 1920
Thank y'all so much for responding
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Mar 9, 2016 7:40 PM CST
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Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
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The first pic is 2009 and the second is last year

I'm still looking for more
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Mar 9, 2016 9:13 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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The color on the second photo is glorious.............
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Mar 9, 2016 9:44 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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welcome to the iris forum, Jolana. You are getting great responses so far. If the color change is significant I would think, as Mary Ann said, a bee pollinated a flower and the seeds scattered among the known rhizome and grew. Sometime on the older irises the children look similar to the parent plant and the new plants can be more hardy and actually smother out the parent plant. It is important to remove the seed pods in order to keep this from happening. Sometimes this is hard to do if you grow a lot. Good luck with sorting this out. It is a lovely iris.
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Mar 9, 2016 10:52 PM CST
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Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
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Thank you Bonnie, It is my favorite by far. I have never let them go to seed
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Mar 9, 2016 11:15 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Welcome Jolana!
If you're like me, relying on memory isn't always, um, reliable Hilarious! Pictures can show a range of colors depending on the time of day they're taken, or variables within different cameras. Also, as some flowers age their color can fade. I just looked back and see I'm repeating what Arlyn said.. *Blush* So.. I'll just say welcome again.
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Mar 9, 2016 11:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Irises
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Rolling on the floor laughing truer words were never spoken. I'll just leave it alone and continue enjoying it, no matter what color it is, nodding
Thank you
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Mar 10, 2016 10:19 AM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
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Welcome! Jolana!
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Mar 10, 2016 2:00 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
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Another Welcome! Jolana
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Mar 10, 2016 4:41 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
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Mar 11, 2016 4:57 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Jolana -- there is no photograph of Afterglow in the database -- I wish you would add yours there............... Smiling
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Mar 11, 2016 6:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Irises
Hibiscus Garden Art Frogs and Toads Dragonflies Dog Lover Daylilies
As soon as I get home I will do that Smiling
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Mar 13, 2016 9:15 AM CST
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No one has mentioned PH quick can greatly effect color saturation and can vary greatly across your property
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Mar 13, 2016 4:58 PM CST
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Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Irises
Hibiscus Garden Art Frogs and Toads Dragonflies Dog Lover Daylilies
That would explain why the ones I shared are so different
Thank you @arilbred
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Mar 14, 2016 4:53 PM CST
(Zone 7a)
Garden Photography Hybridizer Irises Seed Starter Region: Tennessee
You are welcome
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Mar 14, 2016 5:54 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
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Welcome! Jolana! Stop in and visit us whenever you have the time! Big Grin
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Mar 19, 2016 7:35 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Irises
Hibiscus Garden Art Frogs and Toads Dragonflies Dog Lover Daylilies
I found another photo but I couldn't upload it to database, it said it was too small or wrong format, so I will try to post it from here

Thumb of 2016-03-19/Jolana/0224ed

It worked !!! Thanks again for all your info!
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