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Mar 19, 2016 5:04 PM CST
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Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra (Zone 9a)
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With a lot of help from everyone here and the lady that sold me my last batch of roses, I took the courage to prune back all my plants.

Please understand my mentality, if the plant has green stems, I can't interrupt that. Seems that has been my problem with many plants I grow. So I end up with leggy, non-bushy plants. I am trying to break this thinking pattern, and I may be having some success.

So with encouragement , I bucked up and butchered.

Although nothing is blooming right now, I wanted to share the results of the hard prune this winter. I am tickled over how it has helped.
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Mar 19, 2016 5:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra (Zone 9a)
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The only thing I didn't prune back was the knock out. And it's a little leggy. After some more reading I guess I should have done that one too. Back when I did this, I though they were hardy, disease resistant and low care/no care. I was probably wrong on that too.
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Mar 19, 2016 7:08 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Molly, I have tried both ways on the Knock Out roses. My "unpruned for 8 years straight" group is about 5' tall, and they are bushy, not leggy. They bloom from top to bottom. Others that I have pruned down to 8" grew well, with the only difference being that they were only 4' tall at the end of the summer. I'm in zone 6/7, though, and have extreme heat and cold so my experience is very different from Florida. I grow all the Knock Out varieties, and for me, they bloom from April until November with no fertilizing, no pruning, no additional irrigation. I talk to them, and that's the care they get.
Having said that, I know how huge the KOs get in warmer zones, so you could still prune them now, slow down that growth and maybe prevent that legginess you see.
Your others look great! Hurray!
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Mar 19, 2016 7:16 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Looks great, Molly!
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Mar 23, 2016 7:41 PM CST
Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
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Beautiful rose bushes Molly...talking about KO, made me feel so bad that I took one out last week because it gotten so big, I planted Savannah Sunbelt a couple days ago...hopefully I will know how to prune it right and it won't get so big...

Have a great night !
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Mar 24, 2016 7:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra (Zone 9a)
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Ponds Roses Xeriscape
About those KO's. I forgot I had 2, far away from each other. One by the pond looked to be failing and I pruned it back (this one I forgot was KO) It's coming back now.

The other, I will probably prune today.

Went nursery shopping yesterday, so after desk work is done, I'm going outside.
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Mar 24, 2016 8:01 AM CST
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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Very nice, Molly!

Regarding pruning, I used to be the same way. But then I read up and talked to relatives and developed this correlation: Think about it this way- you will go get a haircut, so you hair stays nice and healthy, otherwise it'll grow long and leggy........so why not give your plants the "haircut" they need to be healthy? It's a simplistic way of putting it, but it helps me visualize how I want to prune.
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Mar 24, 2016 8:35 AM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Petunias are the flowers I have trouble cutting back. It's so hard to trim gangly plants if there's one last bud wanting to open, even though I know I'll have more blooms later if I do trim. Seems cruel to cut off a bud that's worked so hard to get to that point. At least with roses, you get a break between flushes, and all you are cutting are leaves.
Even as a young child, I would pick up trimmings and plant them.
*Blush*
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Mar 24, 2016 10:31 AM CST
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Aw. Well I can see why that would cause a problem. You sound like a very nice, caring person because you care about the effort of the plant! I look at pruning (petunias) a different way, that it's the plant last gasp effort to flower so I'd better prune it and help it grow. Lol- not a very happy way to look at it but I can't help it.
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Mar 24, 2016 10:36 AM CST
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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Oh, should've mentioned that with roses, if there is a little rose bud about to bloom but I feel like I need to prune the plant, I take the cutting and bring it inside to enjoy. Sometimes it'll last a week or so because it wasn't ready to open at time of cutting.
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Mar 24, 2016 3:37 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Your way is definitely botanically correct! Maybe I can reprogram myself to think that way! I actually love pruning, so much that I have right and left handed pruners so when my hands get tired I can switch. Rolling my eyes.
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Apr 2, 2016 1:52 PM CST
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Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra (Zone 9a)
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Ponds Roses Xeriscape
Over ten years now here at this property. So many things have died that when it grew, I had to let it. It got to the point my paths were being taken over by crepe myrtles and lorepetelums and others. Only solution was to cut off their bottom branches to convince them to be trees, not bushes.

Roses were my last hold out and seeing how much good it has done, I should have done it sooner.

I posted this bed above and have since added some dianthus, red cardinal, gazania, gallardia and a few other annuals. We had t-storms here all morning and they are all happy. I have buds on the roses and they will show themselves this week. One of the lavender color did bloom last night bud a bit droopy from the rain.
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Apr 4, 2016 4:27 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Molly, your roses look great! I tip my hat to you.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Apr 4, 2016 6:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra (Zone 9a)
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Ponds Roses Xeriscape
Thanks Neal,

I couldn't help myself. I cut some of the rain wrinkled blooms along with a couple that had not opened yet. They are in a vase over my kitchen sink. They look a little wrinkled but still smell so good.
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Apr 6, 2016 6:27 AM CST
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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Very nice- and healthy looking!!
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Apr 6, 2016 4:39 PM CST
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Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra (Zone 9a)
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Ponds Roses Xeriscape
Thanks Alyssa. 2 yellows are blooming, half a dozen buds on a pink one. As soon as they are fully out, I will post and name....if I can find the tags. LOL
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