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Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 21, 2016 7:27 AM CST
Beats me! I'm not getting it. I am trying to get Morning Glory seeds and Black-eyed Susan vine seeds to germinate and grow indoors (Ya know, start them indoors 6-8 weeks before Last Frost sort of thing!). Well my seed growing is not going so well. So I think I'll bag the whole thing and go out in MAY and plant some plants. Drats!!!! Angry
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Name: Duane
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duane456
Mar 21, 2016 8:54 AM CST
That's why I winter sow almost everything.
Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Mar 21, 2016 10:07 AM CST
No! No! No! Don't give up that easily!
Wintersowing is one solution.
There are other solutions.
Did you research what others have done to get those two to germinate?
There is a great deal of information here on ATP to help you get started.
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I direct sowed (outdoors) the Black Eyed Susan Vine last year in a container.
My zone is considerably colder than yours.
You could direct sow now and get flowers earlier than I did.
Morning glory seeds are very hard and maybe need to be scratched or soaked before sowing. I think if you read up on pretreatments, you could direct sow them where you are.
Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 21, 2016 10:16 AM CST
All of my seeds were pre-soaked for 24-hours prior to planting in peat pots with seed-starting mix. I don't know what else I can do ..... HELP ! Sighing! Shrug!
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Name: Marie
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MyRee
Mar 21, 2016 11:49 AM CST
How long has it been since you planted your seed? Don't give up. My Black=eyed Susan seeds have taken over 2 weeks to poke their heads out. I let my morning glory seeds germinate outside. You can cut the bottom of a gallon plastic jug - like a milk jug and put over where you plant and it will warm the soil. I usually get many more than I need.
Bottom heat has helped my seeds germinate faster.
But, Don't throw them out. If you do want to throw them out, throw them to the spot in your garden that you would like them to grow.
Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 21, 2016 12:20 PM CST
All of my seeds are for my Hanging basket for in front of my house.......
Should I keep them moist?
They dry out very quickly it seems.
Let me know.
Thanks.
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Name: Marie
Brigham City, Utah (Zone 5b)
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MyRee
Mar 21, 2016 12:29 PM CST
I believe they need to be moist - not soggy. Don't let them dry out. I have had good luck this way.
Name: Ronnie
Southeastern PA (Zone 6b)
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luvsgrtdanes
Mar 21, 2016 1:17 PM CST
Alan morning glories won't hang even if you put them in a hanging basket. They will twine around each other and eventually climb up the basket. It's just in their nature to climb.
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Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 21, 2016 1:37 PM CST
No, Ronnie, that is not correct - Morning Glories will hang out of a hanging basket. I've seen it.
I have seen a Morning glory hanging basket. They will hang over the sides and drape downward.
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Name: Ronnie
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luvsgrtdanes
Mar 21, 2016 9:28 PM CST
There are a few Nils that will stay on the smaller side and do okay hanging but a purpurea such as Grandpa Ott will naturally start twining on something even if it is itself.
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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Mar 22, 2016 7:09 AM CST
If it is dry where you are:--- keeping a shallow pan of water near the plants might keep them from drying out. How warm is it where your sowings are located?
Older seeds sometimes take a bit longer. Sprouts should show at least about three to four weeks in warmth.
Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 22, 2016 8:31 AM CST
It is quite chilly here at the moment - even for Zone 7A. Spring has not yet arrived here and the temps are below average. I just put the trays of seeds outdoors to get some sunshine, hoping that will help. The MG seedlings that have come up are quite 'leggy' and I'm sure need the sunlight. The other tray of seedlings (Grandpa Ott) has not come up yet at all.
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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Mar 22, 2016 7:02 PM CST
Yes, leggy seedlings need more light.
If you had a shop light for them that might help.
Sunlight is still weak in Northern climates, but usually picks up about now.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 22, 2016 7:33 PM CST
The Sunsmile and Shidare MG are trailers. The climbing gene is either totally off or only partially on. I've used both in hanging baskets.
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Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 23, 2016 4:48 AM CST
The Sunsmile MG seeds I have only been able to find from One vendor - the Shidare MG seeds
I can not find for sale anywhere.
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Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Xeramtheum
Mar 23, 2016 5:25 AM CST
Send me a tree mail with your address Alan and I'll send you some Shidare.
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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Mar 23, 2016 7:30 PM CST

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Alan, are you using bottom heat? Wet soil in a house will be colder (maybe 10° colder I think?) than the ambient room air. They only need warmth to sprout, after that cool temps are OK.

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Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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DavidLMO
Apr 2, 2016 9:49 PM CST
For all Morning Glory seeds - soak in warm water at least 24 hours. For larger seeds, nick or sand paper scarify them. For ipomea moonflower they must be nicked.

I usually soak in hydrogen peroxide solution and use that solution to water all my seedlings and ,oistening the media when I plant the seeds.

I typically do not grow Morning glories indoors, but start them outdoors. Had best luck that way. When I do start them indoors, I start about a month before last frost and use bottom heat and lights.
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Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Apr 3, 2016 3:43 AM CST

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I started a bunch of MG last week .. did soak them in peroxide over night .. just in my sunroom no extra lights or heat.. already a couple inches tall

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