Steve812 said:I think I know what you mean. Perhaps the advantages Vintage Gardens roses are purely hypothetical. If a rose you cannot get anywhere else fails after you buy it from Vintage Gardens, your rose collection is really not any further along than if you had not bought it from there in the first place. It's a point I'll get some consolation from as VG closes.
Yes, that's exactly what I mean, Steve. Hypothetical advantages.
Years ago we used to forgive Hortico's sins because of the amazing variety of roses Hortico offered for sale, roses that were never offered by anyone else. After we ordered and paid for those, however, Hortico would put them on our back-order list and string us along for years, pretending that these "back orders" were going to be available someday. If we got angry and made demands, Hortico would pretend the roses had arrived and would put those labels on any old thing they happened to have in surplus, usualy Iceberg and Autumn Damask. I received two sets of those from Hortico years ago when I ordered Rose des Cisterciens and Cressida twice, stipulating I didn't want them if they had to be back-ordered.
So what was this extensive variety? A hypothetical advantage. Now that everyone has recognized it as such, no one forgives Hortico's sins anymore.