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Aug 3, 2016 5:08 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
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drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 3, 2016 5:16 PM CST
Name: James
Anacortes, WA (Zone 8b)
(Heat zone - 1, Sunset zone - 5)
Region: Pacific Northwest Plumerias Adeniums Tropicals Bromeliad Cactus and Succulents
Container Gardener Plant Identifier Plays in the sandbox Garden Procrastinator Garden Photography
I could believe that it wouldn't be necessary in an ideal situation, ie. brushing after each meal, mouthwash rinsing, tongue/gum cleaning, fluoride water, low sugar diet, etc. But we do not live in that world. We live in the sugar filled, rushed for time, I'm not brushing my teeth after lunch at work, type of world.
I am not an early bird or a night owl--I am some form of permanently exhausted pigeon
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Aug 3, 2016 5:53 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover The WITWIT Badge Region: Ukraine Enjoys or suffers hot summers Pollen collector Native Plants and Wildflowers
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well I just plain like to work my gums with the stuff, if nothing else. Couldnt live without it.
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Aug 3, 2016 5:56 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Me either
Just a part of the routine like blowing nose, washing hands
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 3, 2016 6:14 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
What convinced me to floss at least semi regularly was the horrid smell when you waited a couple days and then flossed. Yuck! I remember that made a big impression on my teenage mind.
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.
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Aug 3, 2016 9:24 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Even I would agree that "they are out of their collective minds." I hate to floss, have always hated to floss... and yet... about a year ago the dentist stuck the probe thing into my gums and said they weren't looking too good, and mentioned the possibility of "deep cleaning." So, finally forced myself to get serious about flossing and using Listerine, and a few months ago had the best checkup I can remember having in a long time. I've been very fortunate to have few problems with my teeth despite the lack of flossing, brush several times a day, etc., but really would like to keep my mouth healthy as long as possible. Flossing seems like a small price to pay for that purpose -- and costs essentially nothing except a few minutes of time.
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Aug 4, 2016 12:43 AM CST
Name: Wes
Ohio (Zone 6a)
Flossing sucks! I refuse. I'll buy the dentures when my well-brushed teeth fall away. Dentures are pretty, can't say that for my nurtured over-priced over-rated teeth! Big Grin

Hate to bring pets into the grumpy thread but I can't bring a dead stray into the pet thread. Lost my favorite kid. I could tell you so much. Pfft. He was a good one. My indoor cats are mourning, it's truly sad. Our daily visitor has passed. A kind, gentle little critter. I keep checking all 4 doors but it's over. Darn it all, I loved this one more than 2 of the indoor kids...
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Aug 4, 2016 4:40 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Cat Lover Raises cows Region: Wisconsin
Awww, what happened to Buddy Cat?
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Aug 4, 2016 6:27 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I am sorry you lost your cat, stray or not. There is really only one reason not to floss and its too bad that people shun it. Each to their own.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 4, 2016 7:19 AM CST
Name: Susan
Torrington, Alberta, Canada (Zone 3a)
World Famous Gopher Hole Museum
Charter ATP Member Dahlias Region: Canadian Container Gardener Ferns Garden Art
Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Wes - so sorry to hear you've lost a furry friend. A stray can still be your friend, and I know you feel the loss keenly. Group hug
Susan
Our lives are like quilts - bits and pieces, joy and sorrow, stitched with love.
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Aug 4, 2016 7:30 AM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover The WITWIT Badge Region: Ukraine Enjoys or suffers hot summers Pollen collector Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Wes....I hear you on the cat. I lost Momma kitty in the past month. She was a feral cat that has come to eat for the past 6 years. I think someone in the neighborhood is up to no good, but just never know. The females are much harder to trap, so I know she didnt just wander up to someone and let them catch her. At least she was too big for the hawks.
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Aug 4, 2016 7:35 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Wes, so sorry about Buddy... it's hard for me to think of an animal as a stray when there is someone who loves it and cares what happens to it. Group hug
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Aug 4, 2016 7:48 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Wes, my most heartfelt condolences on the loss of Buddy. I remember you posting photos of him & talking about him. I know you loved him to bits. Group hug Group hug Group hug
Please do not hesitate to post about his passing on the pets thread! The thread is not just for happy pet talk. We understand what happens when you lose a beloved pet & it doesn't matter one whit that he was a stray & outdoor cat!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Aug 4, 2016 9:28 AM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
There is also a sad thread,

So sorry about your cat. I hope the indoor cats console and cuddle.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 4, 2016 10:55 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Cat Lover Raises cows Region: Wisconsin
Ken, I'm assuming the only "one reason not to floss" is because you have no teeth? (from not flossing???? ) Green Grin!
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Aug 4, 2016 12:32 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
Wes said:Flossing sucks! I refuse. I'll buy the dentures when my well-brushed teeth fall away. Dentures are pretty, can't say that for my nurtured over-priced over-rated teeth! Big Grin

Hate to bring pets into the grumpy thread but I can't bring a dead stray into the pet thread. Lost my favorite kid. I could tell you so much. Pfft. He was a good one. My indoor cats are mourning, it's truly sad. Our daily visitor has passed. A kind, gentle little critter. I keep checking all 4 doors but it's over. Darn it all, I loved this one more than 2 of the indoor kids...
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Oh, so sorry for the kitty and you. Group hug
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Aug 4, 2016 1:23 PM CST
Name: Jean
Hot Springs Vlg, AR, DeLand, F
Daylilies Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Master Level
@Wes I agree with all of the above Group hug
Any day you wake up on the sunny side of the grass is a good day.

"The moving hand writes and having writ moves on. Neither all thy piety nor all thy wit can lure it back to cancel half a line nor all thy tears wash out a word of it." The Rubiyat by Omar Khayyam
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Aug 4, 2016 7:05 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
"Flossing sucks! I refuse. I'll buy the dentures when my well-brushed teeth fall away. Dentures are pretty, can't say that for my nurtured over-priced over-rated teeth! "

Well -- while I agree with "flossing sucks," and also that my teeth aren't as pretty as dentures would be (I consider them as having "character" Big Grin ), I would much prefer to do what I need to do to keep from having even a "deep cleaning," never mind having my teeth pulled and getting dentures... Shrug! (the less dentist interaction the better, IMO!)
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Aug 4, 2016 7:43 PM CST
Madison, Alabama (formerly NC)
Tullulah - B (Susan) - where are you actually moving (again!!). Time seems to be flying by.
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Aug 4, 2016 8:15 PM CST
Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
I've been running into nasty people constantly again.

Belong to a gardening group, a woman runs a food stand she gives free fruit vegetables and flowers away for free but gets donations.

She saw all the things I grew and added me on Facebook liking what she saw. I offered to donate tomatos (I had so many extra) and flowers.
We set up a meet date today she told me she was free all day.
I was at the doctor and right after she was meeting at my house. My appointment was running late and I left early to make it home on time at 5pm.
I message the woman and she told me she isn't even home she's at work and won't be out till 6. I said ok let me know. 6 comes by, nothing from her. Now it's 7pm, I messaged her and she said she can't make it Angry I told her swing by tomorrow I'm free, Then she has the nerve to tell me she can't come by she just wants to sit home and said she'll come by next week, but I already told her that I'm busy.

I was upset and told her that I left my appointment early to be home and that she not only lied to me not being here but didn't care to let me know ahead she was busy and not get back to me. So I said I'm sorry if your too busy I will not give you my stuff for wasting my time.

She took me off Facebook immedietly and blocked me. Nobody uses me to get free stuff and lie to me Grumbling

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