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Name: Melanie Long
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mellielong
Apr 1, 2016 12:13 PM CST

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We came from here: The thread "March 2016 Butterflies, Moths & Larva" in Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum

I have more pictures, but I really need to lie down for a while. So here's a Skipper I saw today. I saw other butterflies, but they were not interested in having their picture taken. Thumbs down More exciting news (with pictures) when I wake up!

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Apr 1, 2016 4:26 PM CST
I've been working in the garden the past 3 days and every day I saw a small orange and black butterfly flutter through the garden, no photos. Sad
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Apr 1, 2016 4:49 PM CST
I made it! Smiling I'm starting to see butterflies too, should have pictures soon.

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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Apr 1, 2016 7:07 PM CST

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Looking forward to those photos, folks! Things are getting warmed up here in Florida. Too fast for my liking, but we have a cold front coming through tomorrow bringing lots of rain and knocking us back a few degrees. It got hot so early last year and then we were still breaking records through November so I feel like we didn't get our usual break of decent weather. I'm trying to hold off the heat as long as I can!

Of course, I can't stop the weather and I actually sunburned my forehead today. I was trying to get a good photo for the thumbnail, and I was also supervising Dad. We're redoing the center spot out front. Remember, Dad's Canary Island Date Palm bit the dust last year and we've been debating what to put there? Well, my Sennas were dying out by the fence (old age, being strangled by aggressive vines). Luckily, they threw down a lot of volunteers so I was like, "What if we planted three Sennas in a loose triangle shape?" Then, I thought I could let some of the "weeds" grow and add some wildflowers. I've already got Spanish Needles, Spiderworts, and Tassel Flower. I thought I'd add some Blanket Flower and other things as they come to mind. Here's the spot I'm talking about. It's in front of my Ford Focus. Oh, and if you can see the bamboo pole, that's marking where a volunteer Corkeystem Passion Vine sprouted up. I put the pole there to keep people (my brother) from mowing it down.

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Cute house, right? It was a big scandal when we built it and added that blue trim. Then, the final house was built across from us and they trimmed their house in pink! It looked terrible. They sold five years later and our nice new neighbors painted it a more dignified shade. It's a mix of grays and white now. You can see that the area is full, Florida sun so I have to be really careful what I plant out there. It does have sprinklers that go off twice a week (until they cut us back to once a week, anyway).

It's been warm enough for butterflies, but pretty windy. As Dad said today, "There's a pretty good tailwind". That was in response to a Zebra Longwing going by him at "90 mph". But let's start with yesterday. There's always stuff going on over at the well. And I found a ladybug larva and a looper caterpillar.

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This is a Tussock Moth with a green (lynx?) spider. The spider didn't get the caterpillar - I did! Nothing personal, but if you don't keep them in check, Tussock Moths will cover your house, shed, trailer, etc. And while they don't sting, some people do have allergic reactions to their hairs which are also part of their cocoons.

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Some other kind of moth caterpillar on the well. FYI, it's right under an oak tree in case you're wondering why all this action happens on a non-plant item.

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Between our fence and the road I found some Virginia Pepper Grass (host for Checkered White and Great Southern White) with a volunteer clump of Corkeystem Passion Vine at the base. Someone had been nibbling the passion vine so I looked and found - a Gulf Fritillary caterpillar!

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On the other side of the road, this Skipper was enjoying the Spanish Needles.

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Before I got sick, I used to take care of both sides of the entrance to our street. I have a vague recollection of planting Blue-Eyed Grass, but it remembered it was there! Trivia time - it's actually a member of the Iris family!

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Okay, I have to skip ahead a few photos so you guys can see what I'm talking about. I have two raised beds that Dad made. He re-purposed the trellis from an old hot tub (he used to deliver mail to a hot tub sales place). I only took a picture of the one, but I grow the same things in both. They have Wooly Pipevine on each side, and right now there's Pellitory growing in the middle. I get other weeds in the middle, but I generally don't plant anything in there because the pipevine would smother it. The pipevines in this bed are a year older than the ones in the other bed so they're a lot bigger and broke dormancy a bit earlier.

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Remember I said when we got all that rain last week that I knew plants would start popping? Well, they did! The Pipevine really sprouted. And it was found! By a Pipevine Swallowtail! I love my Polydamas, too, but I planted the Wooly Pipevine because it's native and won't kill the Pipevine Swallowtail. Come to think of it, Dad had described seeing a female Pipevine around here. I forgot about that. But I checked, and I found eggs! Remember, Pipevine eggs are reddish, Polydamas are yellowish. They generally lay on the stem, but sometimes you find them on the leaves so you kind of have to look around. But keep your focus on the new growth.

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Here's my total Pipevine ST egg haul.

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While I was in the midst of gathering the eggs, a shadow passed overhead. And I know it sounds weird, but I've gotten to the point when I can tell it's a butterfly. I only got one terrible picture, but I saw a Tiger Swallowtail! Hurray! And since it didn't happen if you didn't get a picture, here's my terrible one. FYI, it was checking out the Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow.

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I bought these a couple of months ago, but forgot to take pictures. You see, we had these cool pentas at MOSI and I wondered where they got them. I forgot to ask, but then I was at USF Botanical Gardens, and they had two for sale in the plant shop. I planted them with the other pentas in the "official" butterfly garden. They just bloomed again, which is good because I thought they'd be more stressed about being transplanted. I love how they have the darker center! Will the butterflies care? Will they be as popular as the magic red pentas? We'll just have to wait and find out!

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Despite what you may think, I only ever bought one Corkystem Passion Vine. It's just reseeded itself everywhere. No complaints. But this here is the original right up in front of the house. Remember the Gulf Frit laying eggs on it a week or two ago? Well, here's a caterpillar.

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I wandered back over to my raised beds because I realized I forgot to check the Pellitory. It's a host plant for the Red Admiral, but doesn't sting despite being in the same family as Nettles (their other host plant). Now, Red Admiral caterpillars make little nests where they silk together a bunch of leaves and that makes them pretty easy to find. I've only ever seen one egg and that was up in Kentucky when a butterfly laid the egg right in front of me. But yesterday...I saw a leaf that was kind of folded in half, and I opened it up just to see what was up. And I found a tiny caterpillar! And if you look close, I found an egg, too! It's that little green bump on the leaf that's resting flat on my middle finger.

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Here's another one. Of the three bottom leaves, look at the one in the middle. The egg is on the right side and is a little paler than the leaf. They almost remind me of tiny galls. I ended up finding the one caterpillar and four eggs!

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Over to the other Corkystem Passion Vine that's planted in my "official" butterfly garden. Three little Zebra Longwings all in a row! You know I brought them inside.

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Before we get to today's pictures, I did bust out the microscope. Here's the Red Admiral caterpillar.

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And I tried to take a picture of one of the eggs but they're almost the same color as the leaf. I did notice they tend to lay eggs on the edge of the leaf so that's helpful when searching. I'll have to keep my eye on that patch because I'm sure I missed some. In this pic, the egg is on the top of the tip of that leaf. How do I find these things? Confused

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Today was "fly by" day because I saw a Gulf Frit, a Zebra Longwing, a Red Admiral (!), and the only thing I managed to get a photo of was this Cloudless Sulphur. Which is actually pretty weird considering they're usually the ones I can't get photos of because they never stop. Both Dad and our neighbor have Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow plants in bloom and if you recall last year, they were a big attractant. Apparently, they still are. They smell good, too. Didn't help me focus, though. I'm thinking it's time for a new camera...

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In mixed news, my large Zebra ST made its chrysalis. The smaller one died of melting disease. It was so weird - he molted, ate a little bit, and then just started leaking fluid and died. Sad times.
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Apr 2, 2016 2:48 PM CST
Seeing lots of Eastern Tiger Swallowtails today while working in the yard. They were gathering around a blooming azalea. Saw about 12 yellow ones at one time! Beautiful sight. Then saw a black version near the shed. Cool and windy today. Perfect gardening weather!
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Apr 2, 2016 3:58 PM CST
Get your camera out there tomorrow, Becky. We want to see, too!

Great show, Melanie. Wow you've got lots going on in your yard, and I think the new planting out front will be really beautiful, plus your brother won't have to mow it after you plant the whole thing with butterfly plants!

I went out between rain showers today, and every single stem of Milkweed I looked at had caterpillars lunching on it.

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I have four different Passionvines but only one has the butterflies hanging around it, and I didn't get out that far before the rain came back. Later!

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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Apr 3, 2016 7:25 PM CST

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Too much excitement here at the Long house. Didn't even go to MOSI today. I feel bad for missing two weeks in a row, but I also feel bad physically, so not too much I can do. I'm actually eating better and exercising because I had "the talk" with my doctor when I saw her. I'm now technically a member of the diabetes club, but I'm going to try and turn that around. Unfortunately, genetics are not on my side, but I know I can make a lot of lifestyle changes. But I think I'm going through sugar and caffeine withdrawal! I've switched back to tea, though, which is nice. I think it's my British ancestry, but I love me a good cuppa tea. Starbucks is going to miss me, though.

I did have to feed my own caterpillars today so I went outside when Mom went for her walk. It was really nice here today. It was 59 last night and it stayed cool and kind of windy. I got some more Pellitory for the Red Admirals, but didn't find any more eggs. My cat was playing dead until I poked him a little. The eggs haven't hatched yet, but they did change color. I was showing them to Mom and she said they looked "sparkly". While I was over there, I checked the Pipevine again. And way down low on the vine, I saw more Pipevine Swallowtail eggs!

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I thought it possible I may have missed them the other day since they were so low, but I kept looking and found way more. So it seems I've been egg-bombed again. Hurray! Like I said before, they mostly lay on the stems, but you can see where she got one of the leaves. And they're almost always in small groups although sometimes you see a single egg. I always think something must have interrupted her when I see that.

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Not a lot of butterflies out today because it was cool and windy, but I did see this Skipper.

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And a Gulf Fritillary (aka "Espejito") was laying eggs on my Passiflora 'Lavender Lady'. This picture turned out better than I thought it would. Wait, if it's a female, wouldn't it be Espejita?

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But then she nicely posed for me as she was basking on the lawn.

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The Gulf Frit cats on the Corkystem Passion Vine were getting big enough to be moved, so the Melanie Transport Service took them over to the P. 'Lavender Lady'. They wouldn't have had enough food if I left them on the Corkystem. There are four of them on my hand. The third picture is the 'Lavender Lady' where they have plenty to eat now. It's growing up my cherry tree!

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Saw another Looper caterpillar on the well.

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So on Friday, Dad started working on the center. He marked it off with landscaping timbers because he wants my brother to be able to mow around the edge to keep a nice border. I'm okay with that. Don't want caterpillars too close to my car or the curb. You can see we transplanted three of my Senna ligustrina volunteers. It rained all day Saturday so they got a good soaking.

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I already have some nice clumps of Spiderwort, but Dad transplanted some that were outside the timbers to inside the timbers. It's funny, but I actually planted the Spiderworts in front of the house (on the other side of my car). They just seed themselves really well. I dug them up from the road just south of us where they were growing around a utility pole. I see the Native Plant Society selling them sometimes and while I'm glad people are supporting them by buying them, I can't help but wonder why they don't dig them up in the right of way like I did. You know the county or the electric company will just mow them down. I also noticed not long after I planted mine, my neighbor planted a bunch. What can I say? I'm a trendsetter. Oh, and blue is my parents' favorite color, in case you couldn't tell from the house.

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I was reading the Home section of the paper today because that's where they list all the upcoming garden events and I swear next Saturday everyone is doing something. Normally, I would be at the USF Plant Sale, but I've been enough years to know what vendors show up and what they have, so I think I'm going to try somewhere else. If I feel up to it, we're going to drive over to Largo where the Pinellas County chapter of the FL Native Plant Society is holding a plant sale in conjunction with Wilcox Nursery. They're a well-known native nursery and quite a few people on the FL Forum have been there, and I've been meaning to go there. I want to get some Dune Sunflowers to grow in the middle. And if they have native milkweed, that would be awesome, too! I also want some of that Florida Pennyroyal I saw while hiking. My Dad is always going to Pinellas County for woodturning stuff so I told him he could take me (he's got a truck) and then he could take Mom and I somewhere nice for lunch.

Back to what I currently have in the circle, here's the Corkystem Passion Vine growing up some Spanish Needles. I didn't plant this one; it volunteered from the one in front of my car. It's on the obelisk just in front of my car in the previous picture. But it has spread itself all over the place! Free host plants! Hurray!

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The Spanish Needles were already attracting Skipper friends.

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Okay, it's confession time. I don't think I mentioned this when it happened, but a couple weeks ago, I opened the lid to the Cassius Blues, and accidentally sent everyone flying on to the floor. I picked up as much as I could see, but I knew I had one caterpillar that appeared to be pupating and I just couldn't find it! It doesn't help that I need to vacuum - badly! I kept checking the area, but never saw anything and I kind of forgot about it. Until I was sitting on my bed and I was looking at the pair of jeans on top of my laundry pile and saw something on them. I thought it was Desmodium seeds at first, but when I went to pick them off, I realized there was a Cassius Blue sitting there! Thankfully, I managed to get it in a plastic container and I took it outside since I don't know how long it had been out. I did put it over by its host plant, the plumbago. I took a picture of it on the container, and then one on my finger to show you just how small these guys really are. For those of you who have Eastern-Tailed Blues, they're about that size, but without the tails.

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And since the container I used to capture it was the one with my Zebra Swallowtail chrysalis, I tried to take a photo of it. It's in an awkward spot for photos.

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Speaking of photos, I bit the bullet and bought a new camera! I have a pretty good camera but it's the first model in its series, and model number four just came out. I actually went with a different brand and model after reading tons of reviews because I wanted something with a better zoom for bird photos (and so I don't have to get quite so close to the butterflies) but I also needed something that could take decent macro photos. My camera won't arrive until next week and there might be a learning curve, but hopefully I can take even better photos soon! I'll just have to find the patience to sit and read the manual. Rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 4, 2016 9:34 AM CST
Cute Cassius Blue, I'm so glad you found him. Big Grin

Oh, look, I have Spanish Needle seedlings...
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Tent caterpillars are much prettier out of their house!

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Name: Melanie Long
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Apr 4, 2016 10:22 AM CST

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I haven't seen the Tent Caterpillars yet, but they usually follow the Tussock Moths. Hooray for the Spanish Needles!

I just took a look at Wilcox Nursery's website and they have a lot of stuff I want. Pawpaws (so I don't need to go poaching), Florida Pennyroyal, and a Flatwoods Sunflower that may be better than the Dune Sunflower for my needs. We're definitely going to need the truck! Meanwhile, I'm going to have to do some planning this week so I know where I'm going to put all these plants!
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Apr 4, 2016 4:11 PM CST
Melanie, sorry to hear about your diabetes, please be good and do as the doctor tells you to do. Diabetes runs in my family, when daughter was diagnosed in her 30s she followed the diet for a short while then chose to ignore it, after a few years she found herself in the hospital, she was very ill, since then she has been insulin dependent, can't go anywhere without her insulin pen and test kit. Sad

I'm happy you found that lovely Cassius Blue and released it. Hurray!
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Apr 4, 2016 5:23 PM CST

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Thanks Margaret! I bought myself a new recumbent bike. Mine was recommended by my rheumatologist for the fibromyalgia. The one I have is five years old and we got a lot of use out of it. Mom used it when she was recovering from knee replacement last year. Luckily, the day I was looking for a new bike, Amazon had a daily deal on the one I wanted! It arrived today and Dad's going to put it together. Next Wednesday and Thursday I get to attend a 10-hour course on diabetes education. Today, I had to call to see if the company that's supposed to be sending my monitor and supplies is ever going to do so! Bit of a mix up, I guess. And of course, I still get out there and garden when I can which is great exercise and stress relief!

I bought some funny gardening shirts that arrived today. One says, "I garden so I don't kill people." Rolling on the floor laughing I've also got Dad trained to water the new plants we transplanted. Thumbs up And it looks like I'm going to have to make a list for all the plants I want from Wilcox Nursery on Saturday! As far as butterfly and cat action, not much to report today. Mom saw some Sulphurs while she was doing her walk, and I keep staring at the eggs I have but they haven't hatched yet. Caterpillars are busy eating because that's what they do best!
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Apr 5, 2016 8:02 PM CST
Boy am I ever behind!!!! Loving all the great photos from everyone plus the teachings of Melanie! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

Things are blooming like crazy here. I've seen sulphurs, zebra swallowtails, giant swallowtails, black swallowtails, palamedes, queen. I have not seen zebra longwings or gulf frits or Painted ladies yet. No real skippers to speak of either.

I have been watching this butterfly for days on end now. Flitting, flitting, flitting & never stopping for more than a nano second. I've been so anxious to see it clearly & closely to figure out what it is. I knew I didn't have a chance in a million of chasing it around & finding out. The durn thing just doesn't STOP!!!! Today I was out taking pics of flowers & baby donkey & such & there was this butterfly. Camera in hand I just stood still. Rats!!!! The crazy thing won't stop. Ah! it stopped for 3/4 of a second. I'm trying to get focus on it but it keeps moving locations. Ok, these are horrid photos but at least I got enough to be able to ID it.

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Apr 5, 2016 8:58 PM CST
To overcome that problem, I used to dress up like a butterfly, this allows one to get within inches of the target.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Apr 6, 2016 4:13 AM CST
jmorth said:To overcome that problem, I used to dress up like a butterfly, this allows one to get within inches of the target.


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Apr 6, 2016 9:16 AM CST
That does make quite a visual, Jmorth! Rolling on the floor laughing ...wondering what Plato thinks of your butterfly attire. Hilarious!
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Apr 6, 2016 10:51 AM CST
I'm envisioning Mothra. Hilarious!
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Apr 6, 2016 11:27 AM CST

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I've been super tired, but I did have to feed the caterpillars today, so I went out for a few minutes. FYI, at least one of the Red Admiral eggs has hatched because I saw a tiny cat in addition to my larger cat in the tank. I didn't have the patience to go looking too hard so I just gave them new food and the big guy is all over it.

Saw some neat things while I was outside. It's in the mid-70's and pretty windy outside. I spotted this Monarch fighting against the wind. It landed on some Spanish Needles and was alternately feeding and clinging for dear life.

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On the neighbor's side of the street, I saw a few tiny butterflies flitting about. One turned out to be a Ceraunus Blue! They have less markings than the Cassius Blue and use different host plants. It's weird; I never used to see them around my yard until last year. I wonder what's growing around here that they like?

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The main reason I was over there was because I saw this Dainty Sulphur. You have to be patient and wait for them to stop, but eventually they do. Only for a few seconds so you have to be quick with the camera!

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The Jatropha right in front of the house is looking pretty awesome, if I do say so. In fact, I've been puzzled that it hasn't been attracting more butterflies. But then today this Gulf Frit was all over it, so that made me happy.

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jmorth
Apr 6, 2016 12:51 PM CST
Christine, those days were before Plato.

Melanie, your Ceraunus Blue looks a lot like our ETB

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wildflowers
Apr 6, 2016 1:51 PM CST
That is a really beautiful photo, Jmorth.
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Apr 6, 2016 1:59 PM CST
Thanks
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