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Apr 7, 2016 8:08 PM CST
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Ontario, Canada (Zone 5b)
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AHS currently provides 2 contradictory methods for counting branches via their website.

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AHS Dictionary: Branching
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...
It's a pretty thorough and clear explanation. It states that terminal V's are to be counted as 2 branches.
Excerpt: "A terminal V is counted as 2 branches and a terminal W is counted as 3 branches. A scape that does not divide into a V or a W at its terminus is counted as 1 branch."

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Registration Instructions: AHS Registration Guidelines
PDF: http://www.daylilies.org/Dayli...
This is a rather concise explanation of how to count branches when registering a daylily with AHS; however, it specifically states that terminal V's are to be counted as 1 branch only.
Excerpt: "For purposes of this calculation the terminal ā€œVā€ should NOT be counted as 2 separate branches."

Confused

How do you count branching on your daylilies?
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Apr 7, 2016 8:15 PM CST
Name: Suga
Coastal South Carolina (Zone 8b)
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I read what it says on the AHS website..... If you really want me to be honest Rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 7, 2016 9:09 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Well, to me that reads that only when registering a plant do you not count the V terminal as two branches, and being I have not registered any plants I will count the V terminal as two branches. Why it would be like that I have no idea.
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Apr 7, 2016 9:25 PM CST
(Zone 6a)
I agree with Seedfork.

Thank You! Anne This is a good question, I look forward to others input.
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Apr 8, 2016 6:37 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I definitely may be counting branching all wrong after looking at that.
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Apr 8, 2016 6:43 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I was on the committee that established the new guidelines for branching. The version in the Daylily Dictionary is the current one and was also published in the Daylily Journal of Summer 2013. I think the registration instructions have just not been updated to reflect this. Thanks for bringing it up, I will raise this with the relevant person at AHS.
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Apr 8, 2016 6:44 AM CST
Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Here are a couple of examples. How many branch's do you see on each?
Thumb of 2016-04-08/spunky1/36354c
Thumb of 2016-04-08/spunky1/d8ce57
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Apr 8, 2016 6:45 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Well I haven't registered any in awhile so maybe I was doing it right back then. Do you know when the guidelines were changed Sue??
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Apr 8, 2016 6:46 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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7????
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Apr 8, 2016 6:58 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Hemlady said:Well I haven't registered any in awhile so maybe I was doing it right back then. Do you know when the guidelines were changed Sue??


It was published in the Summer 2013 Daylily Journal. I've reported this conflict so hopefully it will be resolved, but the Daylily Dictionary has the currently correct instructions, or see page 8 of that issue of the DJ.
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Apr 8, 2016 7:07 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Thanks Sue.
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Apr 8, 2016 8:48 AM CST
Name: Sandi
Franklin, WI (Zone 5a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies
Regarding Spunky's photos:

Six-photo 1
Five - photo 2

??? Interested to find out, this has always perplexed me Confused
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Apr 8, 2016 9:04 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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1) A "W" at the top for three, and then three lower branches for a total of six.
2) A "Y" at the top for two, then three lower branches for a total of 5.
That is also how I see them.
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Apr 8, 2016 9:07 AM CST
(Zone 6a)
I count 5 on both. I'm sure I'm wrong.

On the top picture, Do you count the bottom branch to the left as a branch? I'm asking because it doesn't have a V or W. I left it out of my count for that reason. Sorry, if I'm just being thick headed, but I'm confused. *Blush*
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Apr 8, 2016 9:19 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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A lateral stem should have two or more buds to be counted, but the photo is so dark, it is hard to tell, you could be right.
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Apr 8, 2016 12:07 PM CST
(Zone 6a)
Thank You!
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Apr 8, 2016 1:15 PM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier
who knows. I just look at a photo of the plant as a whole and if it is smothered in action, I buy it! Big Grin
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Apr 8, 2016 1:24 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Appears to be 4 on each photo if counting for the current registration guidelines.
Otherwise, 6 on the first one, and 5 on the second.
What is the reason for the changes for registration?
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Apr 8, 2016 2:52 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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If I understood correctly, the method shown for registration is outdated, and the change should make both methods the same.
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Apr 8, 2016 5:57 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Thanks Larry, I missed that part in Sue's post about the Daylily
Dictionary description being the current correct one.

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