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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 9, 2016 7:44 AM CST
Looking at everybody's magnificent flowers I thought we need a new tread for humble gardeners of the North. We are just starting to see some development and dear rosy snouts in our back yards.
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It was planted last fall from a tiny root of Etched Salmon - not sure which one of these as only one showed up yet. I was not sure if they were going to make it. So far it survived with all freezing ( at least -7C )and thawing spring.

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Some action in planted last year Miss America which was potted to begin with.
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Itohs - Bartzella, Cora Louise, Smith Family Yellow

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Another super tiny root from last fall - I divided it into 3 pieces and 2 got one eye and the last one I am not sure what was it - some kind of rudimentary one ( did not show up yet ). Red single to semi-double NOID with great stems, early, long flowering and a little bit of fragrance. I thought it is Rosedale as it not high, but probably will need your expertise to clarify .

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Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Winter Sowing Dahlias Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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LizinElizabeth
Apr 9, 2016 9:00 AM CST
Cool Alex, I'm away from home but have lots of pics to post when I get back! Yours look like they're starting off nicely!
Liz
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Apr 9, 2016 9:18 AM CST
Mine are about at the same stage, maybe a little smaller. Cora Louise, Julia Rose, Miss America, Green Lotus, Carrara, Bev, Pink Hawaiin Coral. One that was a root left after the main plant was killed in 2013 that I think might be Coral Sunset. Lemon Chiffon, Garden Treasure, Mackinac Grand, Rosellette (strangly), Chocolate Soldier yet to show. Plus about four new ones and two fernies by the east fence so they don't get sun til noon at the time of year. Really need to move them.

Am still thinking of make a new bed by removing grass out front. Just a round one with tiers of block. DH shouldn't object as less grass to mow but then it is a pain to mow around the beds.
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 9, 2016 12:53 PM CST
I think next time I plant a bareroot I am going to leave 1 cm of soil on the top - feel that 1 inch was a stretch too far in Toronto. Remember reading somewhere that depth should also correspond whether soil is sandy or clay and it should be less in clay which is what I have. Learning never ends.
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 20, 2016 10:58 AM CST
The weather was treating us well in the last week or so and peonies are growing.
Old Faithful

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Itohs - Bartzella, Cora Louise, Smith Family Yellow

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Red NOID - looks good for both surviving plants

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Red Charm x 2

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Etched Salmon x 2

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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 20, 2016 11:28 AM CST
By the way, I just noticed that Etched Salmon leaves are coming out much lower from the soil than other peonies - I feel that it probably should have been planted more shallow. Does anyone has any experience with this one?
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
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Apr 20, 2016 11:36 AM CST
The one I was able to find online by Nick
https://northernpeony.com/2015/04/28/week-1-progress/dsc0608...
I would say it looks similar to mine.
Name: Diann
Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Apr 20, 2016 7:32 PM CST

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Alex, I can't wait to see your peonies grow and bloom! Smiling Keep the pictures coming!!
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
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Oldgardenrose
Apr 20, 2016 8:38 PM CST
It is always difficult to grasp the fact that the Northern peonies are in full bloom when our peony blossoms are gone.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
Apr 20, 2016 8:52 PM CST
Mine are under snow again! Hopefully it will melt away over then next couple of days so I can remove all of the coverings by Saturday.
Liz
Name: Diann
Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Apr 21, 2016 12:59 PM CST

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Aw Jerry, my heart bleeds for you. Smiling LOL Us Northerners are sitting here drooling over you warmer climate guys with your peonies. Smiling LOL It's a good excuse to do a road trip north to one of the Peony Meccas... Smiling
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Apr 23, 2016 8:24 AM CST
Adelman's is great by the end of May. Been there, done that and it was a blast, wind and rain included. Rolling on the floor laughing
"What a person needs in gardening is a cast iron back with a hinge in it" Charles Dudley Warner (spelling edited by Dinu lol)
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Apr 23, 2016 12:12 PM CST
Well, here is my contribution. You can see why I don't post often at this time of year. You see one pip in frozen ground, you've seen them all. And Yes, that is frost on the ground.
Abalone Pearl
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Athena
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Bev
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Cora Louise
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Coral Sunset
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Early Scout
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Fernleaf Hybrid
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Mr. Ed
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Pink Hawaiin Coral
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Roselette
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Shimane Cho Juraku Tree
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"What a person needs in gardening is a cast iron back with a hinge in it" Charles Dudley Warner (spelling edited by Dinu lol)
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 23, 2016 3:52 PM CST
It looks like yours are around 14 days behind Toronto, Mary Stella. Was your tree planted last year? Yesterday received a message from one of our local peony grower saying my ordered Taiyo " With the continuous freezing and thawing our tree peonies did not survive the Winter " RIP. Sighing! It was spontaneous purchase but I was expected to see it in person in a few weeks time....
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Apr 24, 2016 4:19 PM CST
That is so sad about the peony grower. They must have had a heck of a freeze thaw. We had that in 2013 and indeed many of my plants, not just peonies, rotted.

My tree was planted the fall of 2014, very late as I recall. He sent me an especially large plant and said he had to wait quite a while to get it (don't know where it came from) so the increased value hopefully made up for the lateness of arrival. It was indeed large. It is doing quite well and should form a nice beginning bush structure this summer even if it doesn't bloom yet.

I figured about two weeks or so lag time from you to me. The sun is out mostly today but the temps are only up to 68 in the sun. We had been getting over 70 for several days but still that blasted mid to upper 20's at night. It is holding up all planting outside, even in the raised beds except for well developed lettuce, pak choi, hepatica plants. They don't mind the cold. They even had a bit of frost on their leaves one morning despite the poly cover and are going strong.
"What a person needs in gardening is a cast iron back with a hinge in it" Charles Dudley Warner (spelling edited by Dinu lol)
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 26, 2016 6:57 PM CST
I just pot-treated most of my peonies - very cold temperatures overnight.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Winter Sowing Dahlias Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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LizinElizabeth
Apr 26, 2016 8:53 PM CST
Someone just told me we're supposed to have snow on Monday. Of course, I leave for TX this Friday so won't be here to protect my plants! I'll be checking temps and sunny days to see if I should gamble on just covering them for the entire week--if it's sunny and semi-warm though the covering can do more harm than good here because of the altitude--it'll cook the plants even if the outside temps are in the 50s or 60s.
Liz
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 27, 2016 9:27 AM CST
Turned out that I was overprotective, but ! could have been much worse. Liz, I think 1 week of protection is stretching to the limit. Check whether it will be below freezing and by how much to decide.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Winter Sowing Dahlias Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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LizinElizabeth
Apr 27, 2016 10:38 PM CST
I know, Alex! I'm not concerned about most but I do have a few that are very frost sensitive. I'm afraid I might have no blooms on Blonde Vision even if the nighttime lows get down to below freezing. Not supposed to have any snow accumulation but I've heard THAT story before.....
Liz
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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Apr 28, 2016 7:47 AM CST
May be a huge plastic jar ( something like a gallon water bottle ) or glass cloche with some openings ( ! ) will do the trick? I am not sure how big is it at the moment.
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