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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Apr 10, 2016 10:14 PM CST

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Just a heads up, there is some one selling semps on Ebay and using some of our photos from the database here at ATP. I found two of mine that she is using. I sent mail to her asking for her to remove the photos, or to pay for them. We will see how that goes.
I did notice there are others that look to be from the ATP database, I just couldn't read the watermarks on the photos.
You might want to check to see if any are yours.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ccowhersflowers/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=...

Patty it looks like one is your photo for 'Jade Rose'. But there are others.

This is from Dave:
dave said:Hi everyone, I didn't see this thread until now.

Contacting a seller is almost always a complete waste of time. Like most thieves, they usually don't care about the feelings of the victims of what they are doing.

The proper response to your image being used is to go directly to ebay themselves and report the seller. This does two things: it gets your image promptly removed, and puts massive pressure on the seller to never do it again.

Only the owner of the image can submit an infringement to ebay. In other words, nobody can do the report on your behalf. You have to do it yourself. You do that from this page:

http://pages.ebay.com/vero/notice.html

It is a simple process, and ebay is VERY responsive to these kinds of reports.
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Name: Patty
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Patty
Apr 10, 2016 10:26 PM CST
Yep, that's mine. I surprised someone would sell without a pic of their own plants! Glare Thanks for the head up Lynn, I'll contact her and eBay as well.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Apr 10, 2016 11:11 PM CST
Pretty cheeky!!! I also saw one of tabby's...
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 12:13 AM CST

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Yes, I saw that one also Connie. There were some others but I couldn't read them.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 12:26 AM CST

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Here is the link for instructions on Ebay's infringement policy. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/image-text.html#reportin...
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 11, 2016 1:50 AM CST

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Shes using some of mine too - thanks for the heads up!
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 11, 2016 6:58 AM CST

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I contacted her about 2 of my pictures. One of them she has removed and replaced with one of Patty's! REALLY? You can even see the copywrite on the bottom!

@Patty May want to check this out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-GARDEN-FAME-SEMPERVIVUM-HEN-AND-...
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 9:36 AM CST

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I have split this into a new thread so we can easily find the topic with a link to Ebays policy instructions.
So this thread is dedicated to the topic of copyright/watermark issues.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Apr 11, 2016 9:53 AM CST
None of mine, does this tell me something about the quality of my pictures! Rolling my eyes. Hope you guys can get them taken off.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2016 10:29 AM CST

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Got your c-mail Julia about one of my photo being used.
When I contact these type of people, I copy that portion of the link Lyn provided above about the guidelines for using images and they they are not in compliance. If they do not remove all copyrighted images then they will be reported to Ebay and that it could affect their business and I add that quote.
"Make sure your listing follows these guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and you may be subject to a range of other actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account."
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2016 10:30 AM CST

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I just sent them this:

Do you see that copyright symbol on my image right next to my name Sue Brown??? Yes, all the images you stole from All Things Plants are copyrighted! You were contacted by another seller to remove their image and then had the nerve to replace it with someone else's image from All Things Plants. According to the EBay guidelines for a seller "Make sure your listing follows these guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and you may be subject to a range of other actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account." You can find the photo guidelines here; http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/image-text.html If you do not remove all images taken from All Things Plants, the website owner and all the members whose images you are using will have no recourse but to contact eBay.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 10:34 AM CST

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Thank you for the information Sue. I see she is still showing my images. I will email her again with your above information.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2016 10:36 AM CST

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I hoping my strongly worded notice to her will make her comply. I am keeping at watch on that listing.
Now I have to scroll through the roses and iris to check on those. Glare
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 10:41 AM CST

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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2016 10:43 AM CST

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well that didn't take long! Thumbs down
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnival-Glass-Miniature-Rose-1-Gal-...
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 10:46 AM CST

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Oh my gosh. Has she no shame?
I am wondering if we need to go straight to Ebay about the fact that this is a huge problem with this seller?
She still has not removed my photos.
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 11, 2016 10:49 AM CST

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I don't understand why she only removed one of mine either??? I did contact her again but haven't heard from her at all.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 11, 2016 10:55 AM CST

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I just heard back from her (Carol). She asked if she had removed the wrong photos. I even sent her a link to the photos that belong to me.
I think right now she is busy trying to clean up her mess.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2016 11:01 AM CST

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She just wrote back "Have I removed all your pixs?? so sorry Carol"

The rose one is another seller.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2016 11:07 AM CST

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And she removed several other images but not mine and then she emails me that! Glare
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