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Apr 13, 2016 12:43 PM CST
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Me again,
Hopeless with Latin, genus and species. Give everything a stupid human name or call it by its common name. Rolling my eyes.

I'm sure you have 9 million Trichocereus Grandiflorus / Torch cacti in your files but wanted to enter the blooms only on these ones if you'll accept them. The blooms are naturally occurring (not fertilizer or cross breeding/hybridization induced) and way beyond the usual yield and number for the plant.

Thanks.

Sorry for the inconvenience to you and for being annoying. *Blush*
AG

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Apr 13, 2016 12:48 PM CST
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You could probably enter them in the general Echinopsis page.
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Apr 13, 2016 1:54 PM CST
Name: Deb
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Or, you could first post your unknowns in the Plant ID forum, let those smart folks figure out what you have, then add your photo to the proper spot. I usually provide my best guess to what I think I have and am always so pleasantly surprised at how quickly folks chime in - often getting into interesting discussions trying to pin it down accurately. AG, any addition to the database is welcome, don't think about being a bother.
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Apr 13, 2016 2:09 PM CST
Name: Thijs van Soest
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When it comes to Echinopsis huascha/Trichocereus grandiflorus it is almost impossible to know if you have the true species or not - In all likelihood the one with the white flowers is not - as E. huascha/T. grandiflorus as a true species has red flowers as far as I am aware.

The red one could be straight up E. huascha/T. grandiflorus, but in all likelihood it is also a hybrid as most of the plants sold through the big box stores under the label E. huascha/T. grandiflorus are hybrids these days. So unless you can trace your plant's heritage to a plant that was collected in nature (and the collector's name and collection number are available) and propagated from it through offsets/cuttings you have to assume that it is in all likelihood a hybrid.

I often see them labeled as T. grandiflorus hybrid, which I think would mean that in the database it's name would be. E. huascha hybrid - if there is an entry for hybrids where one parent is known. None of these big box store plants come with a cultivar name as far as I am aware, so E. huascha hybrid would be the closest you could come.

The plant should not be posted under E. huascha, because that would imply you know that it is the true species. I can already see that there is a picture in the database under E. huascha that most likely is not a true huascha...
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Apr 13, 2016 2:32 PM CST
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We have no separate entries for unidentified hybrids of a particular plant species, and our species entries are not confined to the "true" species. A photo of a plant that is a hybrid of two known E. huascha cultivars, for example, could be added to the E. huascha entry. In this case, however, because the parentage is unknown, I would agree with jmorth that they should be added to the generic Echinopsis entry.
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Apr 13, 2016 2:58 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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I agree that your lovely photos should go here: Easter Lily Cactus (Echinopsis)
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