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Apr 14, 2016 12:56 PM CST
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Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
Cactus and Succulents Clematis Dog Lover Irises Lilies Region: New Jersey
Roses
As much as I love looking at Iris in bloom, I also like to look at the soil the Iris are planted in, so always look for those photo's that include the entire clump of iris, including the 'dirt', and look to see what type of soil the iris are growing in. Some photo's look like the rhizomes are planted in pure "Dusty Dirt"
and others look like the soil is more composted and organic.
I'm amazed at the Iris that bloom in that old 'dusty dirt' type of soil. Their blooms are gorgeous!
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle ~ Plato
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Apr 14, 2016 1:34 PM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
I do a composted type of dirt. The type you buy in the garden center. Soil with nutrients added like micrcle grow (I use one rich in comost added to the soil so I don't have to addthe fertilizer), so that way the plants are off to a good start. I do mix in some Alpaca (not hot like others and can be used right away and contains no seeds) fertilizer or use fertilizer tea.
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Apr 14, 2016 6:59 PM CST
Name: Jen Jax
Northern Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Region: Kentucky Dog Lover Irises Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I have heavy clay soil and tons of rock. so I add lots of amendments. I add top soil, compost, sand, gypsum, and peat. Then use the tiller to combine it all.
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Apr 14, 2016 7:08 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My yard is hard clay so I build raised beds with a garden mix soil that is brought from a place that mixes chicken manure with topsoil, compost and such. I would have a hard time growing anything without a raised bed.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Apr 14, 2016 7:20 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
Bookworm Garden Photography Birds Pollen collector Garden Procrastinator Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Clay here...
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Apr 14, 2016 7:57 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Seed Starter Enjoys or suffers hot summers Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Hummingbirder
I know that I have seen it mentioned before, but since we are talking dirt, what does everyone here use for potting mix? I'm probably going have to pot up most of my bonuses. Also does it matter what kind of pot it is? Size? Color?
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Apr 14, 2016 8:04 PM CST
Name: Jen Jax
Northern Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Region: Kentucky Dog Lover Irises Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I use miracle grow potting soil with top soil mixed in. But I only pot in emergencys. Mine go straight into the ground no matter what.
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Apr 14, 2016 8:42 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Mainly into the ground here. commercial potting soil for seedlings.
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Apr 14, 2016 11:43 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
Bookworm Garden Photography Birds Pollen collector Garden Procrastinator Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I use Summerwinds (a nursery chain here) organic planting mix for potting. Depending on what I'm planting, I may mix in fine redwood mulch and vermiculite, and maybe some alfalfa meal and/or compost. Often, though, I will just recycle dirt from old containers before adding in new, unused planting mix. (If the old containers last held nursery plants, the soil in there is often very light.) And then, of course, add in whatever time release and/or organic fertilizers.

Curiously enough, I seem to be having a bit better success seed starting with Miracle Gro organic planting mix, as opposed to any kind of seed starting mix. This is with daylily seeds, though... YMMV for irises and other plants. (And I still have to play games to keep the gnat population down. Glare )
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Apr 15, 2016 12:01 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My soil is sandy and on the acidic side. I try to mix in compost to help the water retention and provide nutrients, but I have planted some in straight soil and they seem to be doing fine. My biggist problem is keeping the water on the plants long enough for the to absorb is. The water drains so incredibly quickly so I actually build birms around the plants or water in trenches along the rows. Eventually I want to get everything on drip. That will make life much easier.

I pot my irises in a mixture of Kellog's organic soil (heavy on the wood chips) and topsoil. I'm finding it drains too quickly so I need to try something else. Superstition told me they only trust Miracle-Gro soil...but I don't know which type.

Good for you Richard on using the alpaca manure. I used to have llamas and they too have excellent soil amending abilities! Hilarious!
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Apr 15, 2016 2:13 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Seed Starter Enjoys or suffers hot summers Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Hummingbirder
I found a new place to make a bed for most if not all of the possible bonuses Hurray!
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Apr 15, 2016 2:54 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Is the new place my garden? Whistling
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Apr 15, 2016 4:34 PM CST
Name: Charlotte
Salt Lake City, Utah (Zone 7a)
genealogist specializing in French
Butterflies Bulbs Heucheras Hostas Irises Region: Utah
We have a great compost here called Oakdale, from a poultry farm. It is what Thanksgiving Point uses exclusively; TP is a large non-profit garden, etc. founded by the Ashton family. Ashton was one of the founders of Microsoft. My soil is pretty good (between clay and humus) but it has been years since I have done much fertilizing. I am going to use Alfalfa pellets this year too. In the past I have done fertilizing when I prepared a bed and then sometimes added compost around the iris in the spring.
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Apr 15, 2016 5:03 PM CST
Name: Niki
Bend, Oregon (Zone 6a)
Flowers are food for the soul.
Bee Lover Butterflies Daylilies Dragonflies Frogs and Toads Hummingbirder
Irises Region: Oregon Organic Gardener
I don't have much organic material in the soil here, and a lot of large rocks. I add peat moss and compost. My husband is going to get bio fine from the garbage dump for the new beds. Thomas Johnson told me their commercial field used to be forest. It was very dry and cracked, but obviously becomes some serious mud when wet. Mid-America Gardens has super rich soil.
"The Earth laughs in flowers."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Apr 15, 2016 6:06 PM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Moiris said: I pot my irises in a mixture of Kellog's organic soil (heavy on the wood chips) and topsoil. I'm finding it drains too quickly so I need to try something else. Superstition told me they only trust Miracle-Gro soil...but I don't know which type.

Good for you Richard on using the alpaca manure. I used to have llamas and they too have excellent soil amending abilities! Hilarious!


I use miracle grow. If I remember right its marked for flowering plants. Than I mix it 65% soil, 35% compost and then make the beds with that, and after I plant I go back over with the pieces I took out of the alpaca tea and cover the bed with with it. So far its worked good. I do need to get a good overall fertilizer though.

What do the rest of you use as a good overall fertilizer?
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Jul 16, 2016 9:06 AM CST
Name: Lloyd
Oregon
Region: Ukraine
Just FYI. I read several places about the benefits of alfalfa for a soil amendment with the recommendation to dig in the pellets. They mentioned that if just scattered on top of the soil, it becomes slimy and smelly when it gets wet. They didn't mention that dug in alfalfa is magnetic to deer who normally leave iris alone. Had to replant half of dozen that had been pulled up by hungry deer. It may be a one time thing once they got a taste of the leaves and stopped. Have to wait and see on that one. Lots of "new" deer here without tasting experience, too.
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(this is an archived picture from winter. Just enjoy the melanin deficient "red."
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Jul 16, 2016 6:00 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
We use the powdered alfalfa when we can get it --not often available.
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Jul 16, 2016 6:17 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I know that Chad Harris recommends Miracle Gro for potted Japanese iris as well.
I admit to slacking. The potted plants are in the same garden mix I use in my raised beds. In my defense, the potted plants are doing really well this year, even with all this endless rain .
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jul 16, 2016 7:16 PM CST
Name: Lyn Gerry
Watkins Glen, NY (Zone 6a)
Birds Irises Keeps Horses Cat Lover Clematis Dog Lover
Organic Gardener Permaculture Vegetable Grower
Our village has a compost area. For soil, I use the composted leaf / yard waste and add composted horse manure from my own horses. Just having a huge raised bed project to do in a hurry, I bought topsoil (a truckload) This soil is pretty lacking in organic matter but I will mix in manure. I also fertilize with bone meal, rock phosphate and lately I've added some kelp meal to the new beds just because I happen to have a bunch left over from a homemade horse supplement. I also add wood ash from the stove to raise the ph (acid soil here and manure is acidic too) and provide potash.

I too am amazed at the pictures of the famous iris farms' soil. My gardening background is as an organic veg gardener. This flower thing relatively new, a luxury enabled by moving from Los Angeles to rural New York state where there is water. I'm used to thinking of a good soil as something dark, rich and crumbly, but dang if these miraculous irises won't grow anywhere.

My garden soil helpers
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Jul 16, 2016 7:45 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Those are mighty good lookin' maure producers, Lyn! Rolling my eyes.
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