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keithp2012
Apr 14, 2016 1:55 PM CST
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There is a flower I saw that has flowers almost identical to dead nettle or henbit, but the leaves look more like long stems trailing all over. What could it be?
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Apr 16, 2016 2:53 PM CST
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Apr 16, 2016 3:11 PM CST
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Are you sure they're the same plant? First pic looks like purple dead nettle, the second like cleavers... Shrug! Confused
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Apr 16, 2016 3:36 PM CST
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cliftoncat said:Are you sure they're the same plant? First pic looks like purple dead nettle, the second like cleavers... Shrug! Confused

I agree
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Apr 16, 2016 4:15 PM CST
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I agree too. But we call that second one 'Bed Straw' out here in the wild west. Smiling

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Apr 16, 2016 4:55 PM CST
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keithp2012 said:...flowers almost identical to dead nettle or henbit...

How are you seeing a similarity?
The flowers of dead nettle/henbit are completely different than the flowers on Galium/cleavers/bedstraw.
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keithp2012
Apr 16, 2016 5:11 PM CST
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cliftoncat said:Are you sure they're the same plant? First pic looks like purple dead nettle, the second like cleavers... Shrug! Confused


Ha ha, the purple plant was mixed in, I was in a rush and posted the extra photo Hilarious!
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Apr 16, 2016 5:12 PM CST
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greene said:
How are you seeing a similarity?
The flowers of dead nettle/henbit are completely different than the flowers on Galium/cleavers/bedstraw.



What's the first flower?
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Apr 16, 2016 5:17 PM CST
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Lamium purpureum.
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Apr 16, 2016 5:28 PM CST
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purpleinopp said:Lamium purpureum.


That can't be right, the leaves and flowers are too spiky. I get purple dead nettle infesting my yard and this looks similar but different.
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Apr 16, 2016 6:56 PM CST
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Are you asking about the plant in this pic?
http://garden.org/pics/2016-04...
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Apr 16, 2016 7:19 PM CST
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purpleinopp said:Are you asking about the plant in this pic?
http://garden.org/pics/2016-04...


Yes
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Apr 17, 2016 12:12 AM CST
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Maybe this one then:
Lamium purpureum var. incisum
http://www.biopix.com/lamium-p...
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Apr 17, 2016 9:50 AM CST
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Name: Keith
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Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
bonitin said:Maybe this one then:
Lamium purpureum var. incisum
http://www.biopix.com/lamium-p...


That looks like it, is this a mutation or different species?
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Apr 17, 2016 11:20 AM CST
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Scroll back to figure 59, there's some charts which show differences from other varieties. Not that you will be able to make head nor tails of it!

https://books.google.co.uk/boo...
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Apr 17, 2016 11:44 AM CST
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keithp2012 said:

That looks like it, is this a mutation or different species?


Same species with slight differences from the original. When there are small differences in specimens that are not significant enough to qualify as a subspecies, then it is sometime given a var. (variety) designation.
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