Roses forum: Rose Seedlings - first blooms season 2016

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Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
Apr 17, 2016 10:02 AM CST
First of my seedlings to bloom this year.

Deborah x Arthur Bell - has a bit of proliferation but the colour is so striking and it has a slight scent so I am going to wait.
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Two open pollinated Christopher Columbus - the colour very similar to the mother however lower petal count and quite different in size to each other. To my nose, neither are scented but my husband disagrees.
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Now this one is a real surprise! I planted Stephen Rulo last November and when I got the bare root plant there were a couple of hips so I decided to plant them. Well, colour very similar to the pics I have seen of Stephen Rulo and it is strongly perfumed. I will have to wait and see how the parent and seedling compare, still I just love this colour!!

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I didn't do that many crosses last year but still have a few seedlings which I am eagerly waiting to see bloom.

Anyone else with seedlings? Would love to see!

Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Apr 17, 2016 11:05 AM CST
You went from seeds to bloom in 6 months??? Wow! Tell me please, what soil, what amendments, what lighting? The first one and the Stephen Rulo seedling are very impressive. Hurray!
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Apr 17, 2016 11:19 AM CST
VERY nice, Sharlene!
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Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Apr 18, 2016 11:42 AM CST
Glad you like them!

Cindi, my seeds were in the fridge until the first week of January and then I sow them in a seed starter mix and only put the early germinations under the lights - Lightwave T5 LW 24-HO (4 tube 96 w). I have the March/April germinations in my sunroom. Amendments - not too sure what you mean???
Name: Neal Linville
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Apr 18, 2016 12:03 PM CST
Sharlene, I'm fascinated with your propagation techniques and really appreciate you sharing! You're giving me all sorts of inspiration! With fewer and fewer vendors selling grafted plants these days, doing my own budding makes good sense. And, I have access to so many varieties of florist roses it would be silly not to try. Many of which may not even be hardy here, but it would be worth trying. I've got friends in warmer zones I can share with too! Smiling I keep thinking how many scion buds I threw away today of White Ohara and Esperance!
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Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
Apr 18, 2016 12:18 PM CST
Neal, glad to hear that I too am able to inspire you to try new techniques with your roses - I can say the same with regards to iris. If it wasn't for this forum I would still only have two plants.
BTW I am still learning and experimenting - I air-layered a 2.2m cane last season on which I grafted two different roses. Over-wintered in the garage because it was too tall for my storeroom and it survived and the grafts are growing!
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Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Apr 20, 2016 10:40 PM CST
I'm waiting for any seeds to sprout.
Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
Apr 21, 2016 11:44 AM CST
Keith, nice to here that some else is also waiting patiently for the babies to bloom! Look forward to seeing the results.
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Apr 21, 2016 12:18 PM CST
sunnyvalley said:Keith, nice to here that some else is also waiting patiently for the babies to bloom! Look forward to seeing the results.


All of my hybrid rose attempts seemed to produce sterile seed, the hips matured and seeds were normal but so far none sprouted! I'm hoping some do soon!
Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
Apr 21, 2016 9:51 PM CST
I am presuming this is not your first attempt at hybridization - what crosses did you do?
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Apr 21, 2016 10:15 PM CST
sunnyvalley said:I am presuming this is not your first attempt at hybridization - what crosses did you do?


Hybrid tea rose with Multiflora rose.
Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
Apr 22, 2016 12:38 PM CST
Keith, now that is something I haven't tried. Have you done the cross previously or is this the first time?
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Apr 22, 2016 1:05 PM CST
sunnyvalley said:Keith, now that is something I haven't tried. Have you done the cross previously or is this the first time?


3 years I've been trying with no seeds ever sprouting, I've only gotten hips to set and seed but no germination. I even reversed how I pollinated (switched who is pollen donor or seed parent) and same results.
Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
Apr 22, 2016 1:27 PM CST
Sorry can't give you any advice there. I think I would have given up after the first year. My crosses are all modern roses - never tried with a species rose - and last season quite a few OP's because the weather didn't play along when I have time to do crosses at end of May/beginning of June. I like to do my crosses early so that they have time to mature.
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Apr 22, 2016 10:04 PM CST
sunnyvalley said:First of my seedlings to bloom this year.

Deborah x Arthur Bell - has a bit of proliferation but the colour is so striking and it has a slight scent so I am going to wait.
Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/c14330 Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/73c8fb

Two open pollinated Christopher Columbus - the colour very similar to the mother however lower petal count and quite different in size to each other. To my nose, neither are scented but my husband disagrees.
Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/d59ca2 Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/08c5cd Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/d73548

Now this one is a real surprise! I planted Stephen Rulo last November and when I got the bare root plant there were a couple of hips so I decided to plant them. Well, colour very similar to the pics I have seen of Stephen Rulo and it is strongly perfumed. I will have to wait and see how the parent and seedling compare, still I just love this colour!!

Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/9911e4 Thumb of 2016-04-17/sunnyvalley/1824ea

I didn't do that many crosses last year but still have a few seedlings which I am eagerly waiting to see bloom.

Anyone else with seedlings? Would love to see!



That last one is a beauty!
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Apr 24, 2016 10:56 AM CST
Thanks Keith - I think it's a keeper!
On the other hand a sister seedling opened today - no sign of Stephen Rulo in it though. Last night it was a tight bud, was opened this morning, and blew completely by this evening. The colour also paled quickly but the scent is delightful - smells like candy!




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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Apr 24, 2016 1:41 PM CST
Lovely, even if rather temporary..
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Name: Sharlene
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sunnyvalley
May 8, 2016 1:18 AM CST
Update on Stephen Rulo seedling - second bloom. The first bloom was indoors under lights - this one outdoors. The colour is a much more intense mocha touch with pink.
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The lastest seedling to bloom is Deborah (Playrose) x Arthur Bell - very slim bud which indicated the low petal count. Also a rather untidy bloom once fully opened but it has taken on the scent from AB. Very healthy shiny foliage! Going to wait for the second bloom before deciding on this.

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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
May 8, 2016 7:08 AM CST
Beautiful - and impressive!
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May 8, 2016 10:36 AM CST
Very lovely Lovey dubby

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