Pacific Northwest Gardening forum: Gaillardias for PNW

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Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
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Bonehead
Apr 21, 2016 10:09 PM CST
I have tried both Arizona Sun and Oranges/Lemons, but neither overwintered. Some say they self sow but I think that may be in warmer climates. Any luck with these, or should I treat them as annuals?
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Name: Kate
Kirkland, WA (Zone 7b)
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Maukahound
Apr 22, 2016 2:39 PM CST
I had luck with the addition of granite chips in the top 1/2" or so of soil. Also had to bait for slugs. They prefer sharp drainage in our climate & sometimes they reseed well, the emphasis being on "sometimes".
Name: DancingGenes
Western WA (Zone 8b)
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DancingGenes
Apr 22, 2016 3:09 PM CST
I had tried them a few years in a row. Never over wintered for me either.
I guess we could dig them up and store in the winter, but I buy them and treat them as annuals. I'm in western Wa.
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Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Apr 22, 2016 9:16 PM CST
Me three. I love them and did manage to get them to over winter one time. Then they died. I was so disappointed. I think my soil is too heavy. I should devote a bed to them and amend the soil to lighten it up. I don't know if mulching in the fall would help or hurt. It might rot under the mulch in the spring. But there are so many other beautiful flowers that do grow that I won't lose sleep over these.
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Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
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Pistil
Apr 23, 2016 3:07 PM CST
I can't keep any, but 'Oranges and Lemons' did overwinter a single time. Drat. I cannot recall the names of the others I tried.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
May 10, 2016 6:12 PM CST
Maybe things that need extra-sharp drainage to survive a cool wet winter would do well in the top-layer of a multi-tier, very raised bed.

A friend had a small very-raised bed with tiers, structured like a wedding cake, with layers of concentric circles, each layer smaller than the one below it.

Like a raised-bed-on-top-of-a-raised bed. Then another layer on top of that.

The top-most layer is well-drained unless climate change brings us monsoons instead of drizzle.
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
May 11, 2016 8:00 AM CST
but then wouldn't the top top layer be really exposed in winter. Wouldn't it freeze freeze Hilarious! worse than being at ground level.
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
May 11, 2016 10:43 AM CST
Good point. Definitely yes - like roots in a pot on top of a platform.

Hard freezes are not much of a problem where I live, especially the last several years.
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
May 11, 2016 8:42 PM CST
While our winters have been very mild of late it would still be cold enough to kill off any plants that high up.
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
May 12, 2016 11:37 AM CST
I should have remembered "Zone 4". To me, PLUS 20 F is a moderately cold winter.

Drainage through elevation works better when the main stress is cool-WET-clay, not "MINUS 20 F".
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
Peonies Ponds Dahlias Canning and food preservation Lilies Permaculture
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Oberon46
May 13, 2016 8:22 AM CST
It was gorgeous yesterday. My thermometer said it got to 80 in the sun. Sure felt like it. I am goin to go for it and plant out some stuff. Still working on hardening off things before the trip to Fairbanks next week to take a load off Laura. Stuff dries out so fast in the garage. Some of the stuff needs daily watering. I am pretty sure it is due to the hot grow lights they are both under and above.
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