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Apr 22, 2016 4:25 PM CST
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Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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I was just asked for a suggestion on what to do for powdery mildew on a Goldflame Honeysuckle in a butterfly garden. They don't want to use anything that might harm the critters.

I know the experts here will have a suggestion or two. Please share any ideas. Thanks
alice
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Apr 22, 2016 7:44 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Okay, I'm certainly no expert, but I'll chime in anyway. Rolling on the floor laughing My first thought would be to make sure the plant has enough air circulating around it. Is it planted too close to something else? Does it have room to spread and breathe? Then, I'd make sure it wasn't getting too much moisture. Is there a sprinkler located nearby that needs adjusting? You'd think I'd know more about mildew living in Florida, but I don't really see it too much. Come on out people reading this; I know you can help!
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Apr 22, 2016 8:14 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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The only thing I've heard of that's organic is milk diluted with water. I don't remember the measurements off the top of my head, but it does kill the mildew. Like most simple cures, it will come back when the weather is right.
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Apr 22, 2016 11:38 PM CST
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Me too. I use milk. It's not a permanent solution, but works for short term. Good air circulation is a key factor though.
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Apr 23, 2016 4:35 AM CST
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Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Milk? wow I never thought of that one. I think in this case the plant was simply under stress and susceptible to anything. There is plenty of air circulation. It is growing on a trellis about 20" from a wall just for that purpose. I believe someone dropped the ball and forgot to turn on the automatic irrigation and first it got too dry then too wet when the water was turned on.

This is a children's garden at a library so milk would be the perfect solution, safe for kids and critters. How do you use it? Whole milk or skim? what dilution?

I can't wait to pass this info on.
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Apr 23, 2016 1:00 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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Apr 23, 2016 4:59 PM CST
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Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Thanks Carol, seems straightforward enough. I am going to go along when they spray and watch the results.
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Apr 23, 2016 5:10 PM CST
central Arkansas - zone 8a/7b (Zone 7b)
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I am also trying the milk spray this year. My spring milkweed seedlings began to develop powdery mildew so I went looking for a remedy. Apparently the milk treatment does work according to what I've read. There was a professor at one of the colleges who did a study on using milk to combat powdery mildew.

The dilution I saw recommended was one part milk to two parts water. I use a hand sprayer to apply it to both the top and underside of the leaves. Also read that it didn't seem to matter whether it was whole milk or other.

It is suggested to begin a milk spray treatment for susceptible plants even before the mildew begins and if I'm remembering correctly, to spray once a week for best results. Hurray!

Myles
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Apr 23, 2016 7:26 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Even if it doesn't have much residual effect, it does kill the mildew without killing the beneficials. I'm thinking maybe the lactic acid is what does it. I'm lactose intolerant so I bought a 1Pint bottle of whole milk to experiment...just in case the Lactaid doesn't work.
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Apr 24, 2016 5:10 AM CST
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Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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LOL, Carol, you never know, the honeysuckle might prefer Lactaid. I believe you might be right on the lactic acid part. I did a bit of research and there are recommendations calling for "only non fat" only whole milk", "only organic (very important) non fat" etc. It seems the common denominator is that it must come from a cow. As to the non fat vs. whole milk, I should think the fat in whole milk would help disperse the milk solids on the leaves.
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Apr 24, 2016 8:21 AM CST
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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This is such a great tip! My bee balm develops powdery mildew every year after it blooms. Going to try it!!
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