Plant ID forum: Cirsium? if so, which one?

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Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Apr 26, 2016 10:24 AM CST
Is there enough visible for an identification? My DD snapped some quick images:

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Apr 26, 2016 11:35 AM CST
Cirsium horridulum looks good ..

http://www.alabamaplants.com/Yellowalt/Cirsium_horridulum_pa...

http://www.discoverlife.org/20/q?search=Cirsium+horridulum

https://www.ct-botanical-society.org/Plants/view/124

Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Apr 26, 2016 11:54 AM CST
Ooooh, love the name! Thank You! Hurray!
DD will be very happy with that. She collected some seeds.
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JRsbugs
Apr 26, 2016 12:39 PM CST
It is a spectacular plant! This must be the yellow form, gotta love those structural leaves. Hilarious!

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Name: Alyssa Blue
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AlyssaBlue
Apr 26, 2016 4:33 PM CST
Is there a benefit to keeping the plant? I've seen one before at my place, and wondered if I should keep it or not, because of where it was growing. Thoughts?.
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Horntoad
Apr 26, 2016 4:38 PM CST
AlyssaBlue said:Is there a benefit to keeping the plant? I've seen one before at my place, and wondered if I should keep it or not, because of where it was growing. Thoughts?.


Bees love it.
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Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Apr 26, 2016 4:39 PM CST
Benefit? Yes. Bees, for one. And edible, too.

Edited to add:
My DD just told me it is also loved by butterflies. :)
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Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Apr 26, 2016 4:47 PM CST
It's called Yellow Thistle but I rarely see the yellow form.
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Bee magnet
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Name: Daisy
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Apr 26, 2016 7:21 PM CST
If its anything like the west coast version (Cirsium vulgare), it will form a huge impenetrable thicket. Ours bloom red or purple.

My personal favorite is Cirsium Occidentale, the Cobweb Thistle. I took this last summer at Incandescent Rocks near Pyramid Lake, NV. I collected seeds but neglected to toss them out into the yard last fall. They are in the frig waiting for next fall.


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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Horntoad
Apr 26, 2016 7:53 PM CST
Cirsium vulgare an introduced invasive. Cirsium horridulum is a native and I have never seen it form anything close to a thicket.
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Name: Alyssa Blue
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AlyssaBlue
Apr 26, 2016 8:20 PM CST
Cool! I've only seen the purple color- great photos Daisy! The red tops remind me of the bee balm I have in the garden. Curious.....did you climb the cliff to get the seeds?
Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Apr 26, 2016 11:47 PM CST
Luckily, I found one lower with ripe seed pods. I am way to old to go climbing cliffs. Smiling I think my daughters (my usual hiking buddies) would have objected to that. They had a problem with me climbing the rockery wall that holds up my neighbor's yard to pull weeds they (the neighbors) weren't pulling and its only 8 feet tall!

Daisy

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Name: Alyssa Blue
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AlyssaBlue
Apr 27, 2016 7:13 AM CST
Your comment makes me think of my father-in-law- he lived to 93. He was out building an arbor, swinging an axe to cut logs, clearing brush until he was 89; and then mowing with his tractor until he was 92. I still, to this day, will never understand how he moved a sofa upstairs by himself- he would never tell me the secret. But his philosophy was as long as you are on earth, keep moving because it keeps you healthy! While I'm not sure if he would've climbed that cliff, he would've definitely climbed the 8 ft. wall. Thumbs up
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Apr 27, 2016 10:32 AM CST
Thank you Horntoad. It's good to know that it's native in my area. Thumbs up

Sighing!
Don't much need to know what is growing out in the western part of the country; Daisyl and AlyssaBlue seem to be having their own conversation about some other plant and somehow a grandfather got into the mix. I have no clue how that helps me to identify the plant for my DD. Shrug!
Perhaps they would like to start a new thread for that conversation about C. vulgare/daughters/hiking/cliffs/grandfathers?

I will mark this as solved and hope that will be the end of it. Thank You!
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 27, 2016 11:32 AM CST
A slight thread wander (discussing various common thistle plants) is somehow cause for reproach? Yikes.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Alyssa Blue
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AlyssaBlue
Apr 27, 2016 11:45 AM CST
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Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Apr 27, 2016 10:41 PM CST
Alyssa, we have been admonished for doing what we do. Sighing!

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 27, 2016 11:30 PM CST
Ladies, I thought your posts were fine - on topic with a bit of a wander. No worries.
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