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May 8, 2016 10:12 AM CST
Name: Mary
Glendale, Arizona (Zone 9b)
Region: Arizona Enjoys or suffers hot summers Seed Starter Roses Plumerias Morning Glories
Hummingbirder Composter Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Me too! Crossing Fingers! I think we planted at the same time, David. Ken sets a high bar! Smiling
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May 8, 2016 10:39 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The luck of a novice, Mary. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 8, 2016 7:51 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I'm waiting too, Dr. Ken.
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love Truly, Laugh
uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you Smile.
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May 8, 2016 8:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Patience. Rolling my eyes.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 9, 2016 11:42 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
Seed Starter Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 1
On a sadder note, my one unrooted cutting looked like it was trying to make claws. Removed from pot and YECH - rot. I recut and am trying again. I only gave it a wee bit of water since November. Rooted cutting is in fact forming claws.
Seeking Feng Shui with my plants since 1976
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May 10, 2016 5:39 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Fight that tendency to help root a cutting by watering it. Cuttings can be very sensitive to moisture at the cut-end, and rot results. I will spray/mist those terminal leaves and adjacent stem occasionally, but that might be once every week or two in the spring/summer and perhaps monthly if overwintering it. Plumeria simply can't utilize water until rooted AND leafing out.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 10, 2016 10:53 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
Seed Starter Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thumbs up

Yes Mary - nearly the same time IIRC. How tall is your tallest seedling? Mine is maybe 5 ".
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May 16, 2016 7:46 AM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Critters Allowed Butterflies Hummingbirder Cat Lover
Bee Lover Region: Mid-Atlantic Cottage Gardener Garden Photography Tropicals Hibiscus
Could you please tree mail me the list also, if you have cuttings left? Looking first for fragrance then for color. I got Celadine and another from you, leafing out nicely this spring! thx!
We're all learners, doers, teachers.
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May 16, 2016 8:50 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Will be glad to Jill. Thanks for your interest and am glad your plumeria are doing so well.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 16, 2016 9:16 AM CST
Name: Mary
Glendale, Arizona (Zone 9b)
Region: Arizona Enjoys or suffers hot summers Seed Starter Roses Plumerias Morning Glories
Hummingbirder Composter Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
@DavidLMO my tallest seedlings are the pl. Alba with the tallest of those being 9". I have one seedling of Allure that is 7". It has been the "Baby Huey " of the bunch from the beginning. I can definitely see the difference in growth as to the variety of the seed and the medium used for growing.

Need to take a picture of one of Ken's cuttings that I believe has an inflo Crossing Fingers! All of his cuttings are looking good Hurray! Thank you, Ken!
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May 16, 2016 11:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I tip my hat to you.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 16, 2016 11:33 AM CST
Name: Mary
Glendale, Arizona (Zone 9b)
Region: Arizona Enjoys or suffers hot summers Seed Starter Roses Plumerias Morning Glories
Hummingbirder Composter Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
@drdawg...Ken, what do you think? This is your Vera Cruz Rose cutting. Hope there is an inflo there Crossing Fingers!

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Anyone wanting healthy plants/cuttings, Ken's are great Thumbs up
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May 16, 2016 11:38 AM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Critters Allowed Butterflies Hummingbirder Cat Lover
Bee Lover Region: Mid-Atlantic Cottage Gardener Garden Photography Tropicals Hibiscus
I agree

And he's just a pleasure to deal with! Reminds me that I need to add a review to The Green Pages...
We're all learners, doers, teachers.
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May 16, 2016 12:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Mary, either inflo. or you are going to have an unbelievable number of tips on that plant. Crossing Fingers!

Thank you , Jill.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 16, 2016 12:50 PM CST
Name: Mary
Glendale, Arizona (Zone 9b)
Region: Arizona Enjoys or suffers hot summers Seed Starter Roses Plumerias Morning Glories
Hummingbirder Composter Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Hurray! I'll take either Smiling
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May 16, 2016 4:14 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
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drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 17, 2016 2:43 PM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
How long does it take for the cuttings to root? I am tempted to take it out of the pot now that I read David rot story. I had not watered but I put it in barely moist soil. I have not watered it since I received the cuttings.

I know I am the world worst rooter. Rooting under my care could spell dead. Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 17, 2016 3:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Audrey, you've only had the cutting for three weeks, and being in PA, I don't know how much heat you have had the cutting in. Three weeks is not long to root a plumeria, particularly early in the season. Though I know lots of people root their cuttings in soil, I only use 100% super-coarse perlite. I don't know what the "best" way is to root them, that's just the way I do mine.

Do you see any evidence of rot at the base of the Celadine? If the base looks normal, firm and greenish, I would not worry. Just be patient. I don't think there is any particular magic number to use for how long it takes to root a cutting. Varieties are all different though the Celadine does root readily. If it makes you feel any better, I have a couple of dozen cuttings that have done nothing, other than a few with inflo. I am still waiting for leaves. I am probably warmer here than you are in PA but I think the off and on cool snaps we have had has slowed down my rooting. When our lows stay above 65F and preferably 70F, things will begin to really speed up with my plumeria - rooting, branching, inflo., and leafing.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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May 17, 2016 8:22 PM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
TY Ken. Reading all these stories I thought I was taking to long. It was going up and down temp wise I decided to bring them inside until this crazy weather gets its act together. When it was in the 80s days and 60s at night we were getting rain all day and night.
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May 18, 2016 12:48 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I now have very few cuttings and those I have left are not fully filled-out because of our cool nights over the last 30 days. I am suspending selling anything but Scott Pratt cuttings. Hopefully, I'll soon begin to get warmer nights, consistently above 65F, and that will jump-start not only the rooted plants but also those cuttings that are being rooted.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.

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