I know that some of my favorites were once a challenge. For example, Greenii and Hookeri were initially lost until I figured out the right conditions.

Wanted to post some pics of my Oro collection. Thanks to Tabby, Picklepuff, Lynn and Chris for getting me started on these. I'm actively looking to add more. Please be patient with me as I am still trying to verify names and spelling on these. If you have cause to challenge an ID, please do so. I want to make sure I have them right.

Orostachys eburnifolia.................................. Orostachys eburnifolia (close up)


Orostachys furosei....................................... Orostachys furosei (close up)


Orostachys macrophylla


Orostachys fimbriata..................................... Orostachys fimbriata (close up)


More to follow

Very nice Twit!

They are pretty cool plants.

Very nice twit. They are such interesting plants. And so much confusion over the naming.

Your macrophylla appears to be the same as malacophylla, so we both have that one. It seems to be one of the tougher of the Orostachys. Mine has yet to bloom.

I had iwarenge which looks like your furosei. It either didn't make it thru last winter or I pulled it up by mistake when I cleaned up the bed.

OHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOO. So sorry for your loss.
I am hoping my Iwarenge lasts

That's why it is easier to grow them in containers or raised beds. You just don't know where they are in the spring, they come out of dormancy so late, and there is no root ball to warn you.

Iwarenge and furusei look identical to me. Back to the confusion in this Genus.
This is supposed to be the newest updated list of official Orostachys.

Orostachys aggregata
Orostachys aliciae +
Orostachys boehmeri
Orostachys chanetii
Orostachys fimbriata
Orostachys furusei
Orostachys gorovoii
Orostachys iwarenge
Orostachys japonica
Orostachys malacophylla +
Orostachys maximowiczii
Orostachys paradoxa
Orostachys schoenlandii
Orostachys sp. Mort 1999
Orostachys spinosa
Orostachys thyrsiflora

Thanks Lynn. I've seen this list, but my problem is how to make sure to fit the plant to the correct name.
There's a vendor selling an O. malacaphylla var iwarenge to even complicate things more.

Yes, I have seen that. The best we can do is try to match them up to an official name.

I could be wrong, but I think your:
Orostachys eburnifolia is the same as aggregata
Orostachys furusei is the same as iwarenge
Orostachys malacophylla is the correct spelling for your macrophylla
Your Orostachys fimbriata looks to be correct.

For now.

Nice researching Lynn!

I can't begin to tell you how mixed up this genus is. Then there is this list from 'The Plant List', what they list as accepted species is in bold type.
Name ---- Status -- Confi­dence level -- Source
Orostachys aggregata (Makino) H. Hara Accepted M TRO
Orostachys aliciae (Raym.-Hamet) H. Ohba Synonym M TRO
Orostachys boehmeri (Makino) Hara Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys cartilaginea V.N. Boriss. Accepted M TRO
Orostachys chanetii (H. Lév.) A. Berger Accepted M TRO
Orostachys chlorantha Fisch. [Illegitimate] Synonym M WCSP (in review)
Orostachys chongsunensis Y.N.Lee Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys erubescens (Maxim.) Ohwi Synonym M TRO
Orostachys filifera (Nakai) Nakai Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys fimbriata (Turcz.) A. Berger Accepted L TRO
Orostachys fimbriata var. grandiflora F.Z. Li & X.D. Chen Synonym L TRO
Orostachys fimbriata var. shandongensis F.Z. Li & X.D. Chen Synonym L TRO
Orostachys furusei Ohwi Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys genkaiensis Ohwi Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys gorovoii Dudkin & S.B.Gontch. Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys iwarenge HARA Accepted M TRO
Orostachys japonica A. Berger Accepted M TRO
Orostachys jiuhuaensis X.H. Guo & X.L. Liu Synonym L TRO
Orostachys kanboensis Ohwi Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys komarovii (Raym.-Hamet) V.V.Byalt Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys latielliptica Y.N.Lee Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys libanotica (L.) Fisch. Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys malacophylla (Pall.) Fisch. Accepted M TRO
Orostachys malacophylla subsp. malacophylla Accepted L TRO
Orostachys margaritifolia Y.N.Lee Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys maximowiczii V.V.Byalt Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys minuta (Kom.) A. Berger Accepted L TRO
Orostachys paradoxa (Khokhr. & Vorosch.) Czerep. Accepted M TRO
Orostachys polycephala (Makino) Hara Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys ramosa Y.N.Lee Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys ramosissima (Maxim.) V.V. Byalt Synonym L TRO
Orostachys rosea (Less.) A.Berger Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys roseus Berger Synonym M TRO
Orostachys saxatilis (Nakai) Nakai Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys schoenlandii (Raym.-Hamet) H. Ohba Synonym M TRO
Orostachys serrata Sweet Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys sikokiana (Makino) Ohwi Accepted M TRO
Orostachys spinosa (L.) Sweet Accepted M WCSP (in review)
Orostachys stenostachya (Fröd.) H. Ohba Synonym M TRO
Orostachys thyrsiflora Fisch. Accepted M WCSP (in review)
Orostachys umbilicus Schrank & Mart. Unresolved L WCSP (in review)
Orostachys vyschinii Bezd. Unresolved L WCSP (in review)

wow

How will we ever keep it straight?

I think the only way to "keep it straight" is to go with the "accepted" authority but keep in mind that it is always fluid. Whether or not a purchased plant is accurately labeled, well that is another matter and a bigger problem. Some species can be so similar that it takes an experienced botanist to tell them apart. I deal with the same problems with the lilium database. I like things to be black and white, if you know what I mean...

We do the best we can, and just enjoy the plants from there.

That is how I see it, at least in my garden. If I have doubts I just label it as a NOID and enjoy it.

The easy thing with Orostachys is that there are not very many of them. And plenty of sites that give you information on what a given species is being sold as. Much easier than semps or lilies.

Lynn, Regarding your second list, I just have one comment:

So many plants, such little availability. <*sigh*>

Isn't that the truth.