Site Talk forum: New members' profile pages incomplete

Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
Views: 963, Replies: 34 » Jump to the end
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
Image
greene
May 8, 2016 6:36 PM CST
When new members join they are (in my opinion) not being encouraged strongly enough to fill in their profile information. Is there a way to politely ask them to finish filling in their profile information before they post questions? I realize not everyone wants to give their name/rank/serial number/shoe size and all that personal stuff, but at least a state/zone/country would be helpful.

Those folks here on ( *Blush* ...not ATP)...National Gardening Association Thumbs up who are trying to answer questions posted by the new people often need to know this information in order to give decent answers.

:thankyou:
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Celebrating Gardening: 2015 I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped beta test the first seed swap Region: United States of America Region: Michigan
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Birds Butterflies Dog Lover Cat Lover
Image
Weedwhacker
May 8, 2016 8:15 PM CST
I agree

LOTS of new members posting questions recently, the majority seem to require a request to add info about their location and instructions how to do so.
"Blessed is he who has learned to laugh at himself, for he shall never cease to be entertained."
- John Powell / Cubits.org - A Universe of Communities
/ Share your recipes: Favorite Recipes A-Z cubit
C/F temp conversion / NGA Member Map
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
Charter ATP Member Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Orchids Region: California Plant Identifier
Image
ctcarol
May 8, 2016 9:33 PM CST
I wonder if a "sticky" at the top of the forums would help...or a line in the instruction for starting a new thread? The plant id forum is the pits with all of the new members asking for id when no one knows what continent they're on, let alone region.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
Image
sooby
May 9, 2016 4:32 AM CST
The same thing is happening in the Ask a Question forum. Perhaps there could be a reminder, or optional profile fields at the initial subscription? Or maybe something added to the right-hand sidebar where these forum's purpose is explained?
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Image
dave
May 9, 2016 4:59 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

I just updated the ask a question area to include the location field, so they can give it at the same time that they ask their question. I bet this'll fix that problem.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
Image
sooby
May 9, 2016 7:10 AM CST
Thank you Dave, is that supposed to show when they click on "post your own question"? I looked just now and didn't see it.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Image
dave
May 9, 2016 7:34 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

It only shows up if you don't have a location already entered. So in your case since you previously entered a location, it doesn't show up.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Image
dave
May 9, 2016 7:34 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Thumb of 2016-05-09/dave/478ee0

Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
Image
sooby
May 9, 2016 9:01 AM CST
Well that makes sense! Thank you, Dave.
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals
Image
Dutchlady1
May 9, 2016 9:36 AM CST
Thumbs up
Name: Deb
Pacific Northwest (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Organic Gardener Herbs Dragonflies Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry
Birds Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Plant Identifier
Image
Bonehead
May 9, 2016 10:24 AM CST
I realize it is meant well, but I always kind of cringe when the first response a brand new member gets is being slightly chastised (in my opinion) for not properly completing their profile. As with any web site, it takes a while for people to become comfortable adding personal information and learning to navigate the site. I think a better approach is to just answer the question as best one can, and let the poster rather figure out for him/herself that most responses have locations included (some give very specific information, others are much more general).

Edited to add: I think Dave's addition of location to the Ask a Question is much more gentle and will likely encourage new members to have an 'ah-ha' moment.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
[Last edited by Bonehead - May 9, 2016 10:59 AM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1143138 (11)
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Image
dave
May 9, 2016 11:21 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Yes, and I'm noticing that most of the questions posted today are including their location now. Smiling
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
Image
greene
May 9, 2016 11:57 AM CST
Thank You! @dave, that should help a lot. Thumbs up Crossing Fingers!

Bonehead said:...the first response a brand new member gets is being slightly chastised (in my opinion) for not properly completing their profile.


It was because of the many times that our members have had to request location information...and not always with tact Whistling ...that I had started this thread. Some folks do the best they can to answer the questions and gently ask for more information. But others just dive in and (the way it looks to my eyes) make the poster feel intimidated.

As far as other sites are concerned, there are many sites that do not allow new people to start a thread until they have responded to 5 or more existing posts; probably to make sure they are not robots or something alien. Whistling Some sites will not allow a post unless and until the profile is completed. Our site is much more trusting and friendly. Thumbs up

Edited to change "post" to "thread".

Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
[Last edited by greene - May 9, 2016 12:43 PM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1143225 (13)
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
May 10, 2016 1:01 PM CST
Bonehead said:I realize it is meant well, but I always kind of cringe when the first response a brand new member gets is being slightly chastised (in my opinion) for not properly completing their profile.

I too, cringe when given the impression that someone is being chastised for not including their location or when I perceive that they are being told in a not so kind or gentle way to go to their profile and add their location. Many are totally new to gardening and there are also those who may be totally new to chatting and asking questions on internet websites. It wasn't so long ago when I was an "older" newbie Smiling and I found the DG site. It was the first time in my life that I'd ever visited an on line website and asked a question. I distinctly remember being a bit intimidated when someone told me that she was tired of newbies asking the same questions over and over again and that maybe if I read through older posts, I'd learn something! Wow, even at my age ... I was a bit taken aback and it deterred me from asking questions and chatting on forums for awhile. I think we should try to put ourselves in others shoes and use a welcoming approach by answering questions as best we possibly can and in a kind way.

I too think that Dave's addition of location to the Ask a Question forum is much more gentle and will likely encourage new members to add a general location to their profile.

~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
Charter ATP Member Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Orchids Region: California Plant Identifier
Image
ctcarol
May 10, 2016 6:49 PM CST
I agree with Lin, but any info given could be wrong if the location is unknown. I think Dave got a good start, but it needs to be somewhere on the plant id forum too. I personally look through threads before asking a question so I won't be too embarrassed, but many don't. If they are new, they have to read the instructions to start a new thread. In my opinion that would be a good place to politely suggest they let us know where this plant is growing. I know security is a major issue these days, but a country, or state shouldn't be that dangerous , and if you ask where the PLANT is growing, it may be something seen on a vacation, so not where the person lives.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
Image
Leftwood
May 10, 2016 7:28 PM CST
And on the same note, I suspect this is why Dave asks that we, as seasoned members, do not tell the OP to "go ask the question on another forum" and also that we stay on the subject, and not ramble or veer off topic.

There's a reminder right above every message reply box in the Ask a Question Forum:
Thumb of 2016-05-11/Leftwood/f7029b
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
Image
sooby
May 10, 2016 7:52 PM CST
I'm certainly guilty of suggesting posting some questions on specific forums when it seems like a topic that needs someone experienced in a particular plant. *Blush* To be honest I think I must tend to be focused on composing the answer and tune out the notice above it - or I once read it and then forgot about it. I know some people get around it by calling in someone from the specialist forums with the @ but I've also see someone complain about having been called in that way. So if a question seems to need someone versed in a particular topic and who doesn't check out the Ask A Question forum, what are we recommended to do?
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Image
dave
May 11, 2016 5:09 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

sooby said:I know some people get around it by calling in someone from the specialist forums with the @ but I've also see someone complain about having been called in that way. So if a question seems to need someone versed in a particular topic and who doesn't check out the Ask A Question forum, what are we recommended to do?


I still think calling in someone using @ is a perfectly fine idea.

Also, I move threads from Ask a Question over to other forums all the time. I've been giving thought to letting other members have the same power, so that the threads can be moved in a more timely manner.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
Image
sooby
May 11, 2016 6:01 AM CST
Thanks Dave. If one doesn't know who on a particular forum to @, would posting on that forum that there's a question on Ask A Question that needs an answer be appropriate? I won't suggest to an OP to ask on another forum any more now that it's finally sunk into my brain as being a no-no.

Yes, I've noticed some threads get moved. I've had some puzzlements when I tried to go back to a few later and they were no longer where I thought I saw them Hilarious! I assume there's a way that the OP knows where they've gone?
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
Cottage Gardener Houseplants Spiders! Heucheras Frogs and Toads Dahlias
Hummingbirder Sedums Winter Sowing Peonies Region: Michigan Garden Ideas: Level 2
Image
jvdubb
May 11, 2016 7:13 AM CST
I am guilty of suggesting someone check another forum for an answer. But I don't tell them to go post there as an order. First, I try to answer their question if I can (which I usually can't) and I just point out that there are specific forums where "experts" may be better equipped to help. I also include a link to that forum. Many times the member posing the question thanks me and mentions they didn't even know we had such a forum.

Page 1 of 2 • 1 2

« Garden.org Homepage
« Back to the top
« Forums List
« Site Talk forum
You must first create a username and login before you can reply to this thread.

Today's site banner is by Paul2032 and is called "French Marigold"