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May 10, 2016 12:15 AM CST
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Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
SONGBIRD GARDENS
Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower Hostas Heucheras
Hello, on Mother's Day my young niece said that she thought black iris were COOL! I only grow one and it is a very slow grower, Fade to Black. I would like to purchase her some rhizomes. I always like to encourage a budding gardener, lol. I know there are quite a few, any suggestion on a good all round one?

Thank you,
Teresa
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May 10, 2016 2:45 AM CST
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
Composter Region: Missouri Plays in the sandbox Enjoys or suffers cold winters
We have a few black iris that we could be talked into trading very easily if you like. We have doubles of Before The Storm and Coal Seams.

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May 10, 2016 6:26 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
I assume you are talking about a TB.? Several years ago I went on a quest for a black iris. I have been really un-impressed with the results. In my yard they are all very dark purple, red, plum or blue. So I tried to find one that is the darkest. I still grow Anvil of Darkness, Before The Storm, Old Black Magic and Coal Seams. I recently shared away Men In Black. It was interesting as it had a bronze beard but in my garden I just do not have the space to grow that many 'black' irises. I had several people tell me that Midnight Oil was the darkest they grew. I tried a rhizome of it twice and it just disappeared so I said a fond farewell to that idea. If you want a smaller iris Dark Matter is a very black looking SDB with ruffles and Black Lightening is a very dark blue one. I grow a little BB, Honky Tonk Hussy, that is so dark red it is hard to capture any color in a photo of it. Keep records of your progress in selecting a 'black iris' as others will come along with the same questions I had. Smiling
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May 10, 2016 7:48 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Midnight Oil is quite dark (with a deep red cast in full sun) but doesn't grow well for me. Coal Seams is a very very dark purple/black and is a champion grower. Very pretty blooms too. I love Black Lightning. It photographs lighter than it really is, but is very pretty in the garden. I don't really grow any other black selfs, and I have never seen any that are just true black. That said, I have two on order - Black Olive, another dwarf, and AmpItUp which is deep cherry black.
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May 10, 2016 7:57 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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As mentioned, there really isn't a true black iris, although some very dark ones. I have Raven Girl, and it's a nice one, I have coal seams but it hasn't bloomed yet, but is making a nice clump.
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May 10, 2016 7:59 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
Leslie, Black Olive sounds intriguing.
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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May 10, 2016 9:52 AM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
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I grow Anvil of Darkness. I love Noble Gesture - really a very dark purple, but a beautiful big
ful form.
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May 10, 2016 10:28 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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May 10, 2016 10:34 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
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Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Black Lightening. photo by Chuck Chapman.
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May 10, 2016 11:38 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
SONGBIRD GARDENS
Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower Hostas Heucheras
Oh, thanks for all the post. Today or well now yesterday was such a busy, crazy day! I am up for trading a few plants later. I am really learning to appreciate those little fellows, does anyone grow them in elevated troughs for better viewing? I am hoping to make one for my mini hosta. The hypertuffa ones.
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May 11, 2016 1:23 AM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
Teresa,
My blackest iris is "Black Suited" (left). It is one of my favourite blacks along with "Dark Passion" (middle) which is a very dark purple with frills and is scented and "Devil May Care" (right) which has dark purple standards and black falls with a beautiful orange and blue beard.
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May 11, 2016 5:30 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
I like the beard on Devil May Care, Robin. You have some nice ones.

Teresa, I grow the little guys in all kinds of situations. Some in buckets, tubs, troughs, barrels, and of course in dedicated iris beds. One thing you have to keep in mind is that they need a lot of root room. Even though they are short their root system is not so short so they need enough space to grow deeply for food and moisture. Planted in smaller pots of two gallons will require you to water them when rain is not scheduled.
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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May 11, 2016 3:30 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Sinister Desire is dark as well (IB). It is the parent of Devil May Care. We happen to have them both but it is a very long shot of a photo. I will try to do better this year.
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May 11, 2016 7:04 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My Midnight Oil bloomed today, reminding me how dark it is. Close up you notice the deep red color in it, but otherwise it looks as black as can be in the garden.

I just LOVE the beards on Devil May Care.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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May 11, 2016 11:37 PM CST
Name: Niki
Bend, Oregon (Zone 6a)
Flowers are food for the soul.
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Black suited was the blackest last year when I went to Schreiner's. I paid attention because my daughter likes black flowers. It has dark purple beards, and the rhizome I received in the mail was incredibly vigorous looking.
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May 12, 2016 4:23 AM CST
Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)
Region: Canadian Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I agree with Niki. This is a picture of Black Suited from my garden. It is a good grower for me and one I have not had rot on. I love this one. This is my 5th year with this one and I have had to divide it once.
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May 12, 2016 9:42 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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It's beautiful, Mary Anne. I also have that Iris, but have had to move it twice, so it's not blooming for me this year.... Sad
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May 12, 2016 12:02 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
I love my Before the Storm, my only black iris. I have had it for 16 years, and still love it.
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May 12, 2016 8:37 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
I have Before The Storm too -- it is looking especially beautiful this year.
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May 12, 2016 8:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
SONGBIRD GARDENS
Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower Hostas Heucheras
Mary Ann, are you having problems with so much rain? I am having a few that seem to rotting at the base and the stalks falling Angry I wish the sun would shine tomorrow!!

On a good note the daylilies are loving all this rain and are huge.
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