We cross posted again.

Lynn ok thanks - yes mine is a NOID I did get it from Jo Ann...It is pretty and I hope Jo Ann that you find out where it came from and what it actually is so we can call it by its name!

Still waiting to see if we hear anything about 'Dea'. Patty would you start a new thread with a photo of your 'Dea'. That way we can keep it easy to find when we need it.

Ok Everyone...i am really stumped. Grandiflorum is fuzzy and this is not.
If you go back to the earliest posts in sedums.net the name was grandiflora Keston. but can it possibly be a grandiflora hybrid and not be fuzzy. I found a reference to a Sempervivum Grandiflora Keston in an old garden magazine from 1906 so maybe this has been out there that long with an incorrect name on it.
Greg now that we have little chance of ever knowing the correct name I would like to send you something with a correct name on it. Or I can send you one of the green sports and we will name it ourselves.
I am going to see if i can get a "Keston" to flower. It has not done that for me since I had a big clump of it and I actually think that the flowers may have been yellow.
It's too bad the German lists do not include pictures.
I will ask Wayne about it but I know he doesn't keep records of where he gets plants and he has had this one for years.

If it is a hybrid, cross between a grandiflorum and another species or cultivar it can not be called a grandiflorum.
Both sempervivum-liste.de has photos, as does Horst's site of 'Keston'. Very definitely a grandiflorum type semp.
http://www.semperhorst.de/Dieh...
http://sempervivum-liste.de/Se...

Thanks for the site with the pictures Lynn. Now that we know it is not grandiflorum or Keston I guess we just call it green and rust NOID. Seems like the green sport could be named ???
I'm not sure how that works in Semps. Sure works in hosta!
Kevin has not had anything to say about this yet. ?

He probably hasn't seen this post Jo Ann.
@JungleShadows

Jo Ann my understanding is that you keep an eye on it for several years (at least a year plus) and see if there is any type of reversion to the old plant. While keeping an eye out for all the ones that look like yours, to see if it is truly unique - then intro it - which to me means to contact Semp. liste and Horst's site, and maybe send some to online nurseries here in the USA to let them know you have a new intro.

But it might not be new - an already named one with the name lost. With thousands out there you'd never know.

Patty - that's true except that Jo Ann has a 'sport' that she's talking about (the green photo above) It came off of the NOID

Yes Greg and Patty. It is a sport which grew right off the noid about 3 years ago and I have kept it going and even sold some with no name on them. It is a good 'dooer' just like its parent. I will not sell any more but increase it and see if i can get it to bloom. It is a shade of green that I really like as it pairs well with its parent, S. marmoreum Chocolate and S. Cavo D'oro. I think Wayne is selling it too. I must see what name he is using on it.
Hmmmm.................. this makes me wonder how many others I have with incorect or invalid names. I'm so glad I got connected to all of you BEFORE I start a web site and continue the miastakes.

Good idea to get them all identified before putting them on a website.