I'm wondering what type of grubs these are, and if the milky spore will get rid of these? I did have japanese beetles in my yard pretty bad last summer, so wondering if they are that?

They look like the grubs that turn into Japanese beetles. But I'm no expert

Sounds like Milky Spore will do the [url=trickhttp://www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/pests/pesticides/what-is-milky-spore.htm!]trickhttp://www.gardeningknowh...[/url]

They look like June bug larvae to me, but I haven't had Japanese beetles yet.

I seen a few June bugs, but only a handful. I had hundreds of the others. They tried to eat my hibiscus clean away!
They also love roses. I ended up spraying the shrubs, but I tried not to spray the blossoms themselves because I did have some visiting bees. Best to spray early morn before they get too active.

Check out the web. It says the larvae of the lily beetle are only 3/8" long. They cover themselves with their own excrement.

June bug larvae can easily be an inch or more long. The ones in your photo are not covered in their own excrement. I often encounter them when digging in my gardens. I always leave them exposed and usually the Robins end up eating them. Did you find them on plants or in your soil? How big are they?

They were an inch long, and they were just under some heavy rocks I had laying out in the yard, they were just laying on the surface when I lifted the rocks. There were hundreds of them. I lifted probably 40 large rocks and there were 8 or 10 easily under every rock. I smashed them all.

Make a wooden tray feeder and stick them in there. Birds will gobble them up in no time.

Guess I didn't think of that, not sure it will do anything for my grub problem though, the birds might get fat however! I was wanting to use milky spore, but then I read that you have to buy the right kind of stuff depending on what kind of grubs you have. To me they are just ugly grubs, I dunno what they are! But the milky spore is kind of pricey so I want to make sure I get the right stuff.

Milky Spore has specific instructions and works best when all surrounding properties also use it - it may be impossible to convince everyone that it's needed. If you are the only one using it the JB's will fly in from neighboring properties to attack you roses, hibiscuses, clematises, dahlias, etc. It's a very tough battle to fight.

I want to reduce moles in my yard, I do have a large yard, an acre and a half.

Best thing you can use is Castor Bean plants or use the oil and drive them out. Never surround your property otherwise you will trap them and have a mess on your hands. Start on one end and go from there. Your goal is to drive them out and make your property taste like crap to them.

well I have a 5 lb poodle, and a 2 yr old, so poison as that is, that is not an option for me

Milky spore only works (and apparently not as well as previously thought) for Japanese beetle larvae. White grubs are the larvae of Scarab beetles and there are several other species of Scarab beetle white grubs that look like JBs and are not susceptible to milky spore - if you're patient and not squeamish there are charts on the web for differentiating the different grubs but it involves looking at a pattern of spines on their rear ends. A beneficial nematode is apparently considered the most effective non-chemical control. I don't know what the trade name may be but the species is Heterorhabditis bacteriophora. This article from the U of Missouri may be of interest:

http://ipm.missouri.edu/MEG/20...

Thank you! I am not squeamish, and I want to get RID of these things, there are SO many I can't hardly believe it honestly. Under every rock.... I will use the link you posted too, great info!

If you have any difficulty fitting yours to the pictures there are some other sites that have pics of other Scarab grubs also, I just wasn't sure which were most likely in your area so went with the MO site.

One that we have around here that isn't on that Missouri list is the European chafer. On the MO site above you can ignore the black turfgrass ataenius because it's a little itty bitty thing compared to the others!

One thing with peering at the raster pattern is that the grubs usually take a very dim view of proceedings making it difficult to see. I saw a suggestion the other day that setting them in sand with their bottoms up can help. Another less pleasant way is to cut the grub in half so that it can't curl the raster away from you. Have fun

To my old eyes they look like June Bug grubs but I'm often wrong.

Hey @ JRsBugs, can you take a look?

I have not noticed any June bugs around here though.

greene said:To my old eyes they look like June Bug grubs but I'm often wrong.

Hey @ JRsBugs, can you take a look?

Greene, a number of related beetle grubs look the same. Although you can sometimes figure out what they are based on time of year and size, because of mixed generations/species you would normally differentiate by looking at the raster pattern. From past years' experience you could make an educated guess but I know in this area we only had June beetle grubs for as long as I can remember, then a couple of years ago European chafer grubs started appearing (much to the delight of the neighbourhood skunks!). They pretty much look the same.

This page shows larger pictures of the raster pattern on the larvae and also the adult Scarab beetle species to which they belong. There are many species of Scarab beetle, these are just some of the ones that are garden pests:

http://ohioline.osu.edu/factsh...

I think your call to Janet won't work because there's a space between the @ and the user ID so you may want to try again.