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May 17, 2016 6:15 AM CST
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Marion, Flathead, Montana (Zone 5a)
4b - 5a ... deep in the NW rockies
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This plant was found in a water catchment near a large cattail grouping that is damp to wet all year round , standing water whenever it rains ... zone is 5a . The leaves and stems have a waxy feel to them and leaves turn a darker w/ bluish red edges just before or at flowering time { maybe due to wet silty soil with clay underneath ? maybe a nutrient or ph issue } ... stems become woody as it matures ... root structure/shape/base seems to be shallow and spread out , mostly woody instead of a corm or bulb . I didn't take a pic of last summers flowers ... my bad . The flowers are purplish and very tiny and show in late summer . Total height of the biggest mature plant was about 4 ft . It looks out of place where it was found , maybe a cultivated species that escaped . Initially i thought it was a Liatris phenotype by the flowers look { small and delicate } ... but the leaf shape and feel seems to rule that out .
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May 17, 2016 6:26 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Could it be Cephalanthus occidentalis commonly called Button Bush or Buttonbush? You might google that to see an image of the blooms and see if they might be similar.
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May 17, 2016 7:06 AM CST
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Marion, Flathead, Montana (Zone 5a)
4b - 5a ... deep in the NW rockies
Butterflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
No , the flower type is much different . I have uploaded some pics of the top 18 inches of the flower spikes that I kept from last year . The habit is quite tall and thin ... Stems initially fleshy and green but harden and darken as they get woody ... even up into the flowering tips . The 2nd year growth { about 12 inches already } in the first 2 pics will end up being 4ft maybe even 5ft ... I forgot I sunk in the wet swampy muck to my ankles to get at these specimens !
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May 17, 2016 7:13 AM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
Southeastern PA (Zone 6b)
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May 17, 2016 7:16 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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The way it grows looks like Purple Loosestrife - Lysimachia salicaria which grows in bogs and water. The leaves look a bit more fuzzy than mine but there's cultivars.

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May 17, 2016 7:38 AM CST
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Marion, Flathead, Montana (Zone 5a)
4b - 5a ... deep in the NW rockies
Butterflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
YES thats it !!! found this site from google images ... is exactly the conditions I found first specimen in ... http://www.utahweed.org/weed_p... " Purple loosestrife is a European plant probably introduced to the United States as an ornamental" So that pretty much nails it ... confirms my suspicion its not from around here , definitely an ornamental ... woody root structure and seeds extremely small & black . Coordinates of finding is 42°21'40.7"N 88°49'31.3"W ... was not expecting it to be classified a european invasive escapee tho { but then I have Onopordum Acanthium - Scottish Thistle to counter the massive infestation of Bull Thistles in my area } ... but its definitly Lythrum salicaria ... a Purple Loosestrife cultivar . Many Thanks JRsbugs !!!
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May 17, 2016 9:25 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Bee Lover Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Dragonflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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I tip my hat to you.

I like it, only have to pull a few plants up here and there, bees and butterflies love it!
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