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Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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kareoke
Sep 23, 2011 10:46 AM CST
William sent me a plant of the brug he named and registered after me "Miss Doris" at first my plant didn't do too well now she is doing great and has buds, just hope they stay on long enough to bloom.


Name: Veronica Dykes
central Texas
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BettyDee
Sep 24, 2011 10:40 AM CST
Doris, it looks like she is growing well.
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Name: Doris Klene
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kareoke
Sep 24, 2011 1:48 PM CST
Thank you Betty Dee, she realy picked up after it got cooler.
Name: Cherie or CeCe Coogan
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CherieCoogan
Sep 25, 2011 9:24 AM CST
I brought in the brugs who has/has buds on them 17 plants in the sun room. All with buds but.............I am no finding the buds on the floor. Wish I knew why they do that and how to rememdy it..........
Name: Doris Klene
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kareoke
Sep 25, 2011 10:05 AM CST
Cherie I never found a sulution to it, I felt change of climate or envirement caused a lot of it, and I know how frustrating it can be, I hope you get some of them to fully bloom.
Name: Cherie or CeCe Coogan
Wisconsin USA (Zone 5b)
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CherieCoogan
Sep 25, 2011 4:10 PM CST
My Wretched Mess has thrown every bud it ever put on without opening, Indoors and out. Thing is I have counted her many buds and last year had 36 buds on it but was throwing them 5, 6 at a time. Only one opened and it wasn't all that fantastic. This morning I found 8 buds laying on the floor. Not all from the same plant but at this rate...............

When I first brought Lisa in she had 9 buds on her she now has 6.
Name: Veronica Dykes
central Texas
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BettyDee
Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM CST
Cherie,

Dropping leaves and buds is normal when there is a drastic change in environment. Their next flush which they produce while inside should result in more buds being retained. Lack of humidity can cause buds to drop. Have you tried misting or setting out saucers with pebbles in them to increase the humidity?
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Name: Cherie or CeCe Coogan
Wisconsin USA (Zone 5b)
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CherieCoogan
Sep 26, 2011 12:42 PM CST
I am contemplating getting a humifier for out there during the day. The humidity always gets so high at night but during the day can drop drastically. I kind of wondered if that could be the reason so thought I would trial and error with this fix.

Like I said above though Wretched Mess throws them no matter where it has been or how long. I found a whole lot more buds on the ground this morning. Sad Sad Sad
Name: Veronica Dykes
central Texas
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BettyDee
Sep 26, 2011 4:57 PM CST
Is your Wretched Mess fairly young plant? Sometimes dropping buds stops as the plant matures and sometimes its a problem with that particular cultivar.
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Name: Cherie or CeCe Coogan
Wisconsin USA (Zone 5b)
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CherieCoogan
Sep 27, 2011 4:23 AM CST
It was given to me a couple years ago. It was about 4 foot tall at that point. It gets taller but it is always the first one to get the yellowed leaves and the first one to produce lots and lots of buds then throw them. I have one one maybe two open blooms ever. And they weren't very impressive. I have really been disappointed with it. I hang on to it because it was given to me.
Name: Cherie or CeCe Coogan
Wisconsin USA (Zone 5b)
the faster I go the behinder I get.
Charter ATP Member The WITWIT Badge Hummingbirder Region: United States of America Ponds Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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CherieCoogan
Sep 27, 2011 4:40 AM CST
Just received an e mail from Ibrugs.com on my bud drop question. According to them this can be caused by one or both of two things. Improper watering and thrips. I used insecticidal soap on all these plants the morning I brought them in. They stayed on the patio till they were dry.

Improper watering? 2 gallons morning and afternoon wasn't enough? They go in the ground next year. They really do,.,
Name: Veronica Dykes
central Texas
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BettyDee
Sep 27, 2011 8:28 AM CST
It's rather difficult to answer questions because often information that is needed to provide a more accurate answer is not provided. If you didn't say how often and how much water you used or if you didn't tell them what the weather was like, they assumed lack of water was a possibility. Two gallons maybe sufficient for a small plant in a 1 - 3 gallon container, but it may not be sufficient for a root bound plant in a larger pot. This summer, I lost between 75 - 85% of all my Brugs due to heat stress and not being able to provide enough water to keep the Brugs hydrated. The humidity was very low and transpiration very high. In essence, the leaves lost more water than the roots could absorb. Under this kind of stress, the Brugs lost most of their leaves and refused to set buds. They went dormant and died. I'm hoping that with cooler fall weather some will return from the buried stalk, but so far, all the roots I've looked at are dead. This summer was brutal and one for the records.

In what sized pot is your Wretched Mess and how long has it been since you re-potted and replaced the potting mix? From what you are saying it seems that Wretched Mess loses her buds even when it is outside. If it is getting enough water, fertilized once or twice a week with a complete fertilizer and doesn't have a pest infestation, then it just might be a genetic flaw and only you can decide whether she is worth the bother. Many Brug hybrids were rushed to market too soon and/or before they were thoroughly tested in a large part of the country. Some Brugs grow and thrive only in certain environments. In others, as time went by, genetic defects were discovered that the cultivar wasn't worth the trouble to grow.

Just in case you do spot thrips: They are difficult to get rid of and require multiple treatments. Here are some links that might help.
http://pestcontrol.about.com/od/controllinggardenpests/p/Thr...
http://www.ehow.com/how_2387390_get-rid-thrips.html
http://www.northcoastgardening.com/2009/06/how-to-kill-thrip...
http://www.naturescontrol.com/thrip.html

Brugs definitely grow bigger and better in the ground. The roots tend to stay cooler which is a great plus. If roots get too hot or damaged by the heat, the resulting stress can result in all sorts of problems. I would love to grow mine in the ground, but then I would have to take lots of cuttings for the following year because I wouldn't be able to dig them out, not after the back surgery I had this year.

One alternative to planting in the ground and having to dig them out in the fall is to enlarge the pot's drain holes and bury the pots just 1" - 2". This would allow the roots to grow out the bottom through the larger drain holes. Then all you would have to do in late fall is expose the bottom of the pot, run a knife or use lopping shears to cut the roots along the bottom of the pot and prune the top to compensate for the roots cut off. In the spring, remove and trim the rootball, use new potting mix and repeat the process. Until the roots anchor the pots to the ground, it's a good idea to tie the pots in place with some stakes and rope. I did this one year with good results. The Brugs grew almost as well as if they had been in the ground. My only problem was that my yard is a former Bermuda grass pasture. The Bermuda grew through the drain holes and into the potting mix. I ended up having to remove all the potting mix so I could get rid of every strand of Bermuda. A single node of grass left behind re-infests the pot.


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Name: Cherie or CeCe Coogan
Wisconsin USA (Zone 5b)
the faster I go the behinder I get.
Charter ATP Member The WITWIT Badge Hummingbirder Region: United States of America Ponds Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Echinacea Butterflies Birds Roses Region: Wisconsin Peonies
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CherieCoogan
Sep 27, 2011 8:56 AM CST
Veronica thanks for all the great info. I really don't think this one is worth the headache and I may just take a cutting or two off and start over. I had put it in a bigger pot last spring with all new potting soil. I had my hubby help pull the rooot ball out and it doesn't seem overly root bound. But I cut the stems way back so I cut about a third of the root ball out. Added fresh potting soil and replanted it., I think if next year I see the same issues I will just take the cuttings and leave this one outside all winter. I have enough brugs now that one less will not matter one way or the other.

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