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Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 21, 2016 11:46 AM CST
That's what the label said didn't see anything on the German site:
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Would it be one that is in our data base but just a different name?
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 21, 2016 12:55 PM CST

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Okay all you Semp sleuths, see what you can do with this one. Ready, set, GO Hurray! Hurray!
Could it be S. pittonii x montanum?


Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 21, 2016 1:04 PM CST
Looks like that first one!

Does montanum mean mountain in Latin?
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Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
May 21, 2016 1:08 PM CST
Julia it means of or from the mountain
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gg5
May 21, 2016 1:08 PM CST
Yes it looks like a cross of both those. I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Jo Ann Mc Brayer
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ricos
May 27, 2016 7:03 PM CST
I am glad to see this thread. This is one that i am pretty sure Julia got from me and i have been looking all over the data base and the German sites for it because it is another name that seems a bit off. I love the semp and i think it should be pittoni x mantanum too. I have not been able to find any reference anywhere. It's probably in Sedumphotos.net. I havn't looked there yet but that is not going to help much. Perhaps if we are all looking for it we will find something. I am in the process of verifying the name of every Semp that I have and there are some others with Questionable names too. One at a time.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 27, 2016 7:18 PM CST

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Yes, Jo Ann it is a very big task. Most of us have been working on it for several years. Hopefully we will find something on it.
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ricos
May 28, 2016 12:32 PM CST
I am going to the source next week and will be asking about this one and several others. I hope I can get some clues. Thank you all for your help.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 28, 2016 1:03 PM CST
Are you stocking up for sorticulture?
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 28, 2016 1:34 PM CST

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Thank you for looking into this one Jo Ann.

@JungleShadows Kevin does Julia's new semp look like a cross between pittonii and montanum?
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Name: Michael
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parttimegardener
May 29, 2016 1:55 AM CST
To me it looks like pittonii in slightly different green (that could either originate from growing conditions or lighting conditions on the photo (Lynn your photo seems to be taken on a sunny day or with flashlight, while Jo Ann's day was more cloudy). I can't see traits of montana in Jo Ann's plant.
Name: Jo Ann Mc Brayer
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ricos
May 30, 2016 10:34 AM CST
Michael the color of "pittonii montanum" in this picture is the true color. I have had this one for some time and the color never changes even in the winter. I have never seen the spesies but it seems very green in the picture here...not the same color. It seems that montanum is green too so where did the blue come from if this is a cross??? It certainly gets its shape from pittonii. And the mystery continues. I spent a couple of hours searching last evening to no avail. I wonder if there are any records anywhere from the nursery that Kevin told us about where they tried to straighten out the names mess. I have forgotten the name of that nursery at the moment and don't have time right now to go back through reams of thresds. Have to go plant more potatoes !!! I tip my hat to you.
Thank You!
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Name: Jo Ann Mc Brayer
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ricos
May 30, 2016 10:38 AM CST
I think the nursery i was refering to in previous post is North Hills Nursery.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 30, 2016 3:07 PM CST

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Jo Ann that would be Fernwood in England.
North Hills Nursery had quite a few that were incorrect. When Martha bought the business she inherited a number of misnamed semps. She was working very hard at straightening it out. I was so sad to hear she closed the nursery. She was such a great person to do business with. She is missed.
Name: Jo Ann Mc Brayer
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ricos
May 30, 2016 10:16 PM CST
I have spent a LOT of time on Fernwood's site since they hold the national colection I was hoping to find out something about a grandiflora from Keston which i saw mentioned in a 1916 garden magazine from England.
I was refering to North Hills as i was wondering if it is possible that "pittoni montanum" came from there already with a wrong name. I suppose it could be pittoni x montanum but that does not explaine it's much bluer color than either if the species. I'm considering joining the Scottish Rock Garden Society so i can get into their Sempervivum records . Or i could just let it go and call it a NOID but it is a consistantly good grower and just a very nice little semp. I hope it will flower at the same time as something reasonable to x with it.
Just curious ...how long ago did North Hills close?
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 31, 2016 8:02 AM CST

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A few years ago.
I would love to see what the blooms look like. That might be helpful.
Name: Jo Ann Mc Brayer
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ricos
Jun 1, 2016 12:08 AM CST
This is where NOIDS go (there it is in the right corner and it looks suspiciously like it is pushing up a flower stem) We may see a bloom. This pic is being cropped from the original so it is barely in the picture.
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jun 1, 2016 8:28 AM CST
That is beautiful.
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gg5
Jun 1, 2016 7:13 PM CST
Pretty mix Jo Ann I tip my hat to you.
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 7, 2016 9:52 PM CST
Some of it is blooming
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