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Sep 24, 2011 3:21 AM CST
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Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
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Would it be a good idea to include a soil type field? As in likes: Acid/alkaline/Neutral, and dry/wet, and fertile/rich/sandy/light/stoney/clay soils.

So far I have been adding that in comments but it might be a valuable database addition.
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Sep 26, 2011 2:36 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I really like the idea of having all that info in the top information box, instead of plant specific box below.
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Sep 26, 2011 7:12 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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>> top information box

Is there any place where comments can be left that apply to (most of) an entire genus?

That would be great.
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Sep 26, 2011 7:17 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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I agree

For instance...there's 40 pages of African Violets (Saintpaulia) and it would take forever to write in all of the info for them all when one single page with the info (which is the same for them all) would be handier.
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Sep 26, 2011 7:18 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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We have some ideas on accomplishing that, but nothing right now, alas.
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Sep 27, 2011 3:15 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I really like what the Territorial Seed Company does in their paper catalog.

Each "category" of seeds has a block of advice with fields like
cultural advice
harvest
disease
pests
and "other" fields where relevant, like:
preparing the bed (for asparagus)
maintaining the bed (for asparagus)
transplants
to direct sow
blanching (for cauliflower)
spring culture
fall culture

That doesn't always fall cleanly into the category "genus".

All I can think of would be a set of fields for each genus, focusing on traits likely to be common accross the whole genus.

Or perhaps a themed series of articles with shared authoring, one article for each genus or category. Each database entry could have a link to the "parent article".

It could go into more verbose detail about methods of germination and breaking dormancy, or pruning, or propagating, or dealing with pests than most species currently have in their database entry.

Or verbose descriptions of climates where DS in spring is most suitable, or Fall direct sowing, or special handling of transplants.

Since the advice for a whole genus has to be general and full of exceptions, advice that might also vary with climate would still be appropriate.

And long articles full of generalizations seem more palatable when they aren't repeated hundreds or thosuands of times for each cultivar in a species.

And once a baseline is stated for the genus, a specific cultvar entry can say "more tolerant of X than most tulips" and still be meaningful to a novice.
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Sep 27, 2011 5:03 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Great ideas Rick.
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Sep 27, 2011 8:22 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Thanks very much, Lynne.

I agree with Dave's priorities: these are frills and future wish-list items. Things like "search" and "trade" should have higher priorities.
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