Plant Database forum: Extra Field - soil types

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Name: Carol
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okus
Sep 24, 2011 3:21 AM CST
Would it be a good idea to include a soil type field? As in likes: Acid/alkaline/Neutral, and dry/wet, and fertile/rich/sandy/light/stoney/clay soils.

So far I have been adding that in comments but it might be a valuable database addition.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Sep 26, 2011 2:36 PM CST
I really like the idea of having all that info in the top information box, instead of plant specific box below.
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Sep 26, 2011 7:12 PM CST
>> top information box

Is there any place where comments can be left that apply to (most of) an entire genus?

That would be great.
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threegardeners
Sep 26, 2011 7:17 PM CST
I agree

For instance...there's 40 pages of African Violets (Saintpaulia) and it would take forever to write in all of the info for them all when one single page with the info (which is the same for them all) would be handier.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 26, 2011 7:18 PM CST

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We have some ideas on accomplishing that, but nothing right now, alas.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
Sep 27, 2011 3:15 PM CST
I really like what the Territorial Seed Company does in their paper catalog.

Each "category" of seeds has a block of advice with fields like
cultural advice
harvest
disease
pests
and "other" fields where relevant, like:
preparing the bed (for asparagus)
maintaining the bed (for asparagus)
transplants
to direct sow
blanching (for cauliflower)
spring culture
fall culture

That doesn't always fall cleanly into the category "genus".

All I can think of would be a set of fields for each genus, focusing on traits likely to be common accross the whole genus.

Or perhaps a themed series of articles with shared authoring, one article for each genus or category. Each database entry could have a link to the "parent article".

It could go into more verbose detail about methods of germination and breaking dormancy, or pruning, or propagating, or dealing with pests than most species currently have in their database entry.

Or verbose descriptions of climates where DS in spring is most suitable, or Fall direct sowing, or special handling of transplants.

Since the advice for a whole genus has to be general and full of exceptions, advice that might also vary with climate would still be appropriate.

And long articles full of generalizations seem more palatable when they aren't repeated hundreds or thosuands of times for each cultivar in a species.

And once a baseline is stated for the genus, a specific cultvar entry can say "more tolerant of X than most tulips" and still be meaningful to a novice.

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 27, 2011 5:03 PM CST
Great ideas Rick.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
Sep 27, 2011 8:22 PM CST
Thanks very much, Lynne.

I agree with Dave's priorities: these are frills and future wish-list items. Things like "search" and "trade" should have higher priorities.

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