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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 1, 2016 8:41 PM CST
My god, can anyone help me with DISTINGUISHING features between the two, I got a field filled with both, and am trying to transplant thr milkweed for the area is being fenced in for our cows. I mean they are practically IDENTICAL .
just look them up, please give me hints, only obvious difference is the skinny flower pods dogbane makes....which is in the fall
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Name: Sally
central Maryland
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sallyg
Jun 1, 2016 10:12 PM CST
In my limited experience, dogbane stems are thinner, leaves smaller, thinner....maybe there are other species of both that are so close.
Apocynum cannabinum versus Asclepias syriaca?
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Name: Sally
central Maryland
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sallyg
Jun 1, 2016 10:15 PM CST
I see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocynum_cannabinum
leaves look very similar.
How about the red stems on dogbane? Also seems to me, dogbane branches and milkweed not really.
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 2, 2016 5:52 AM CST
The stems up here don't seem red to me hmmm
Brenden
Name: Judy
Mid Atlantic Coastal Plain USA (Zone 7b)
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MariposaMaid
Jun 15, 2016 2:38 PM CST
Dogbane stems are smooth and Common Milkweed stems are fuzzy.
Pic from this site:
http://the3foragers.blogspot.com/2015/05/milkweed-shoots-vs-...
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Name: Sally
central Maryland
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sallyg
Jun 15, 2016 5:27 PM CST
well, there ya go! Good find, MM
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Name: Judy
Mid Atlantic Coastal Plain USA (Zone 7b)
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MariposaMaid
Jun 15, 2016 6:42 PM CST
HaHa, I did have to use a magnifying glass to confirm that my Common Milkweed is indeed 'fuzzy'! Couldn't tell by feel.

It wasn't until the six plants I rescued from a landscape crew started to branch that I even found out there was a Milkweed look-alike called Dogbane. So, I agree with Sallyg about the branching being a major difference. I think Dogbane is the prettier of the two plants with its red tinged stems and structural form (and no orange oleander aphids!) Easier to dig and transplant successfully than Common MW a shovel depth all around plant and I got most of it.

I didn't watch this video but it may be helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvQnJSSvRLA

I'd also say that last year's stalks could be a clue as the Common would be the largest. My three + year old Dogbane is still more slender than a pencil. The Dogbane here emerges a week or two earlier than Common MW in same area.

Good luck Brendan @bhart90. Hope you are able to figure something out.
Name: Sally
central Maryland
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sallyg
Jun 15, 2016 7:01 PM CST
I was introduced to Dogbane when it volunteered in my yard, and was home to a batch of milkweed tussock moth cats. An aha moment.
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Name: Judy
Mid Atlantic Coastal Plain USA (Zone 7b)
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MariposaMaid
Jun 15, 2016 7:15 PM CST
So,@Sallyg, the tussock moth cats can eat Dogbane but not the Monarch cats?
Name: Sally
central Maryland
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sallyg
Jun 15, 2016 7:26 PM CST
I do'n't know that. I just figured that having MW tussock moth cats, which I had known on common MW, then getting on dogbane, was the clue I needed to ID dogbane. I haven't had dogbane for some years.
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 15, 2016 7:28 PM CST
Thank you man! As soon as I read that, I walked outside to my field and checked that out, thank you!!!!

Also, when emerging from winter, the leaves are almost As wide as long!
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 15, 2016 7:34 PM CST
I have seen only 2 monarchs so far, I must do the drastic measure of capturing a female and rearing her in a closed milkweed plant over night. This guy did it and woke up to at least 40 eggs.
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Name: Judy
Mid Atlantic Coastal Plain USA (Zone 7b)
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MariposaMaid
Jun 15, 2016 8:13 PM CST
Brendan, the last two summers, I had one female visit my milkweed patch each day for about three weeks. She came at the same time each day, would leave for about a half hour and then return several times to nectar and lay eggs. She did tend to lay only one egg per plant, but since I was watching and caught on to her routine, when she left, I would find the eggs and gather each leaf so that when she returned there were most plants with no eggs for her to lay some more! Most days I collected 15 - 20 eggs, but there were a few days of over 40!

Over 400 in 2014 and close to 300 last year.

If I searched for eggs early evening (I used the setting sun to help me find the eggs) I rarely found any in the early am so it surprises me that one would lay eggs over night, especially since temps may be too cool to fly.

Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 15, 2016 8:22 PM CST
Over 90 eggs, my god watch this and spread it around like cancer
https://youtu.be/SgEGM4C1l2I
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Name: Vicki
Rocklin, CA (Zone 9b)
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MunchkinsMom
Jun 18, 2016 12:31 AM CST
Great video I tip my hat to you.
Name: Cheryl
Brownstown, Pennsylvania (Zone 6a)
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nativeplantlover
Jun 20, 2016 7:32 AM CST
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The leaves are way smoother and much thinner. Sure wish I had some on my property then I'd have this cool Dogbane beetle
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 20, 2016 1:02 PM CST
nativeplantlover said:Thumb of 2016-06-20/nativeplantlover/4399dc


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The leaves are way smoother and much thinner. Sure wish I had some on my property then I'd have this cool Dogbane beetle


Give me address and I'll send you seeds, our field is covered....
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New York (Zone 5a)
Finnyc
Aug 26, 2016 10:13 AM CST
Another way to distinguish is that dog bane has almost a 'shrub' like growth, and many times will have a reddish stem. Their flowers are more bell shaped than milkweed. Their leaves are smaller and give almost a 'black locust' arrangement look to them.
Name: Sally
central Maryland
Seriously addicted to kettle chips.
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sallyg
Sep 3, 2016 6:31 PM CST
that's a good description, Finnyc
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