Roses forum: Rose Identification Help

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Vienna Ohio
br3cher
Jun 7, 2016 3:57 PM CST
Im wondering if i could get help identifying this rose. my parents bought the house i live in in 73 & this rose bush was already there. the house was built in 1950. i have tried looking on the internet but cant seem to get the right one & hope that someone here might know what variety it is. when it first opens up, it is a light pink, then it turns to a darker pink. the inside is yellow & it really reminds me of a carnation. we are going to be moving in the near future & i would like to take some of this with me to plant as i have lived in this house since i was 1 year old. parting with something that has been my home for over 40 years is quite hard. there are multiple trunks or branches that come up out of the ground but in 2 places. they are clustered in the one location, probably about 6 different branches in the one side but about 8" over is another branch that comes up, it is the one with most of the flowers on it this year. i am a terrible gardener, always watering too much or too little & often kill plants & flowers, not intentionally though. im just bad at it i guess. i hope that the description & pictures are good enough to get this variety figured out. thanks so much in advance!

ps, if you bang the bush, all the petals will easily fly off the flower. my lovely neighbor while leaving one day hit it & there was petals everywhere after it caught on the mirror. i promise you, she did it on purpose.



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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jun 7, 2016 4:26 PM CST
Hi br3cher. Welcome to NGA!

I hope someone can ID it and give advice on transplanting, like "start cuttings" or "transplant a big ball of soil" or "take bare-root suckers". It's really pretty. And you'll love having it around as family history.

If the move is likely to be during the winter, my guess would be "divide it now and get some used to living in big pots, then put them in the ground next year at the new place".

>> there are multiple trunks or branches that come up out of the ground but in 2 places. they are clustered in the one location, probably about 6 different branches in the one side but about 8" over is another branch that comes up, it is the one with most of the flowers on it this year.

From that, I am guessing (guessing) that it is on its own roots and not grafted.

BTW, are you moving far north or far south?

P.S. I suggested that someone move this thread to the "Roses" forum. THEY won't have to guess the way I do! Whenever someone posts to this thread, you'll get a notification since you are automatically "watching" it.

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Vienna Ohio
br3cher
Jun 8, 2016 2:52 PM CST
Thank you!
I dont plan on moving in the winter, though you never know, lol. We are moving from ohio to wv, about 4-5 hrs away.
RickCorey said:Hi br3cher. Welcome to NGA!

I hope someone can ID it and give advice on transplanting, like "start cuttings" or "transplant a big ball of soil" or "take bare-root suckers". It's really pretty. And you'll love having it around as family history.

If the move is likely to be during the winter, my guess would be "divide it now and get some used to living in big pots, then put them in the ground next year at the new place".

>> there are multiple trunks or branches that come up out of the ground but in 2 places. they are clustered in the one location, probably about 6 different branches in the one side but about 8" over is another branch that comes up, it is the one with most of the flowers on it this year.

From that, I am guessing (guessing) that it is on its own roots and not grafted.

BTW, are you moving far north or far south?

P.S. I suggested that someone move this thread to the "Roses" forum. THEY won't have to guess the way I do! Whenever someone posts to this thread, you'll get a notification since you are automatically "watching" it.



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zuzu
Jun 8, 2016 4:48 PM CST

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That's a good set of photos for an identification. The foliage appears to be that of a hybrid rugosa. I have no experience with these because I've never grown rugosas in my garden, but I did a search for hybrid rugosas of the same color and petal count as yours and found that the buds on most of them are a deep pink or are multi-colored. The only buds I found that match yours are on Conrad Ferdinand Meyer, an 1897 hybrid rugosa.

Rose (Rosa 'Conrad Ferdinand Meyer')

Hybrid rugosas are offered for sale by all of the own-root rose nurseries, so they must be relatively easy to propagate by cuttings. I grow cuttings in 1-gallon containers. If you want to do that, choose tips with buds on them. They are at their peak for reproduction when they display the energy to produce buds. The cuttings should be about 8-10 inches. Cut off the buds and any flowers at the top of the cutting, remove the leaves from the bottom 2-4 inches, and plunge the cutting into a well-draining planting mix, burying the leafless bottom 2-4 inches. If you wish, you can apply powdered rooting hormone to the bottom of the cutting. That can help to keep a cutting alive. Keep the planting mix moist, but not wet, and protect the cutting by keeping it in dappled shade until it produces new leaves of its own, at which point you can start moving the container to acclimate the rose to gradually sunnier locations.

If you want to move the entire plant, that can also be done. Water the soil around the rose thoroughly, dig out the roots, prune the top of the rose bush back to match the length of the roots, and plant the bush in the new spot, making sure to water the plant daily until it has adapted to its new location. It would be best to rig up some contraption to shade the plant during the hottest part of the day until it had adapted to the new location.

If your rose is a hybrid rugosa, there's another propagation option. Rugosas send out runners, and it's likely that your branch coming up a short distance away from the main plant is a runner with roots on it. You can try cutting that runner off the main plant and planting it separately, either in a container or in the new location. Again, the key to keeping a transplanted rose alive is daily watering for the initial period and protection from intense sunlight until the rose is happy in its new spot.

Here's a tip on the general care and maintenance of your rose. Don't ever spray it with pesticides, fungicides, or liquid fertilizers. Rugosas hate being sprayed and will react negatively to any kind of spray.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Jun 10, 2016 9:53 AM CST
Thank You!

Thanks, zuzu!

I love Dave's new feature where you can just click a few times and propose moving a thread to where KNOWLEDGEABLE people are bound to see it.

I'm also "starring" this for the cuttings advice. I'll try to ID the two roses that I want to multiply, before trying.

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