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Jun 8, 2016 11:25 AM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
I just read that hollyhock and Lupine take a year from sedan to plant...to flower.

What are these plants called? And what are any others?

Thank you

-Brenden
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Jun 8, 2016 12:09 PM CST
Name: Tom Cagle
SE-OH (Zone 6a)
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read up on wintersowing and cold-stratification. Many seeds only germinate when they think it is spring.
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Jun 8, 2016 6:17 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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They are called biennials if they don't bloom till the second year. However, I've had hollyhocks bloom the first year if started early enough in the greenhouse. And the same for lupines.
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Jun 8, 2016 7:19 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Biennials live two years: the first year spent growing a plant, the second year blooming and growing seeds. Then it dies. Lupines are perennial but some perennials take two years to mature to bloom size. Hollyhocks are perennial or biennial, depending upon the strain.

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Jun 8, 2016 7:31 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Ok, so flowering onion blooms every other year. It dies then?

I know about stratification already,

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Jun 8, 2016 7:41 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Onions are in the Amaryllis family, whose members are mostly perennial, including onions. Smiling
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Jun 8, 2016 7:44 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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not all biennials die after their second year

I have a hollyhock that is on it's 3rd year blooming

Thumb of 2016-06-09/krobra/4b660e

the tall one is the 4 year old , the other two shorter ones will be their first year blooming
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Jun 8, 2016 7:47 PM CST
Name: Jay
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krobra said:not all biennials die after their second year

I have a hollyhock that is on it's 3rd year blooming

Thumb of 2016-06-09/krobra/4b660e

the tall one is the 4 year old , the other two shorter ones will be their first year blooming




Daisy said "Hollyhocks are perennial or biennial, depending upon the strain."
wildflowersoftexas.com



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Jun 8, 2016 8:04 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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I guess I did miss that part , Thank You! Jay and Daisy , good to know some are perennials.
mine were gifted seeds , so I am not sure exactly what cultivator they are.
I just kept hearing they were biennials on here and died after the 2nd year.
A pint can't hold a quart , If it is holding a pint it is doing the best that it can.
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Jun 8, 2016 8:10 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
So is my interpretation "biennials"
Have 2 meanings?
1. Plants that flower every other year
2. Plants that are grown from seed, take an entire year to flower.

Please pardon me if I'm not understanding.

And HELLO HORNTOAD!

You will be first to know if my hollyhock/okra/hibiscus crosses work.
Never got around to getting cotton though. DOH!

oh, and are there any plants that ARE true to seed? I general speaking.
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Jun 8, 2016 8:13 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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I've heard the same, Kurt, everywhere I've looked. This is the first I've heard that some hollyhocks are perennial. Heh, and the Lupines I've tried to grow may have SUPPOSED to be perennial, but obviously they hate me and die after a couple of years. Hilarious!
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Jun 8, 2016 8:50 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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I am growing Standing Cypress/Ipomopsis rubra for the first time this year Brenden , I started it early and it is said to bloom it's first year if started early indoors , but it too is listed as a biennial.

Standing Cypress (Ipomopsis rubra)
A pint can't hold a quart , If it is holding a pint it is doing the best that it can.
and it is written ,
if the evil spirit arms the tiger with claws , brahman provided wings for the dove.
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Jun 8, 2016 8:54 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Odd, I hope it goes well hahA
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Jun 8, 2016 11:15 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Sighing! Maybe this will help:

http://garden.org/courseweb/co...
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Jun 9, 2016 10:30 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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Daisy, I'm curious. Can you give me an example from the database of a Hollyhock that is considered a perennial? Not arguing, just curious. I'm wondering if our database contains that information.
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Jun 10, 2016 9:14 AM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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not from our database woofie , but is listed as a perennial hollyhock on two sites

http://www.bluestoneperennials...

http://www.perennialresource.c...
A pint can't hold a quart , If it is holding a pint it is doing the best that it can.
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Jun 10, 2016 9:48 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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Ah. That second link does say that the Spotlight series is truly perennial, not biennial.
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