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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 12, 2016 8:09 PM CST
Hello everyone I started this thread because I was curious of what crosses everyone is working on this year. Here are some of the crosses I'm working on.
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Restless Heart') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Avante Garde') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
I look forward to hearing about your crosses and maybe some updates as pods form.
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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 12, 2016 8:49 PM CST
Daniel, please let me know if you find Francis of Assisi to be pod or pollen fertile. I crossed it last year with any and every tet ( both ways) but got nothing. I wonder if it is my plant or is this typical of this cultivar.
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 12, 2016 9:18 PM CST
I'll be happy to keep you updated. So far I only see a few pods here and there and none from Gram's dream as pollen or pod parent and none from Francis of Assisi as pollen or pod parent yet. By far Forestlake Ragamuffin has been the most fertile both ways but I've had a lot more Forestlake Ragamuffin blooms than others. Speaking of Forestlake Ragamuffin I forgot about
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Fiji') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')


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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 13, 2016 4:54 AM CST
Daniel, please let me know if you find Francis of Assisi to be pod or pollen fertile. I crossed it last year with any and every tet ( both ways) but got nothing. I wonder if it is my plant or is this typical of this cultivar.
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 16, 2016 6:23 PM CST
Just and update I now have a pod that formed on Gram's Dream. I also I have several pods now using Gram's Dream as the pollen parent the first pic is the pod on Gram's Dream

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This next pics are the pods from Gram's pollen

Forestlake Ragamuffin
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Forbidden Fantasy
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This is another Forestlake Ragamuffin
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another Forestlake Ragamuffin
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and another Forbidden Fantasy
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I also have many more pods that I think may be hiding under shriveled flowers. The bad thing is it's been getting so hot so early the pollen has been drying up before I make it home from work. I was off today and I got some great shots of Gram's Dreams anthers just as the pollen was starting to push out around 8am this morning.



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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 16, 2016 6:26 PM CST
bxncbx said:Daniel, please let me know if you find Francis of Assisi to be pod or pollen fertile. I crossed it last year with any and every tet ( both ways) but got nothing. I wonder if it is my plant or is this typical of this cultivar.

I have a pod on Forbidden Fantasy using Francis of Assisi as the pollen parent. you can see it in the 3rd pic down.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 17, 2016 10:10 AM CST
today's crosses where as followed:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Fiji') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') x Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Avante Garde') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Restless Heart') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
and Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Fiji')
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 17, 2016 11:01 AM CST
At this point my crosses are determined by what pollen is usable more then what crosses I want to make. Restless Heart is another daylily I'm not too fond of. It does have a lot of substance with very thick petals and always opens good so I don't mind using it as a pod parent with any extra pollen that's around but I'm not using it as a pollen parent and may get rid of it soon like Double Cupcake.
I look forward to adding more patterns this Fall. Hopefully I can find some seeds with tet Texas kaleidoscope, Searing Wind, or Ripples and Reflection genes in them to play with. I bid on some of Tink's seeds last night on the LA but sadly was outbid. I don't mind spending $20 or $30 for some seeds but $60 and over $100 for some seeds is too far out of my budget though worth every penny. I love both her's and Fred Manning's patterns. I personally think many of Fred and Tink's seedlings look way better than other hybridizers intros and they have shifted my goals more towards patterns than teeth but I still love teeth and spiders.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 18, 2016 11:35 AM CST
today's crosses where as followed:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream') x2
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Restless Heart') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream') x 2
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream')
Miley Greensleeves X Galaxy Explosion X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream')
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Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi') x2
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi') x4
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Chatham Magic X Magic Lace X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 18, 2016 11:42 AM CST
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gram's Dream') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') today also. It seems pollen forms best when temps stay below 90F Today was mid 80's and I had a lot of fluffy pollen vs the past few days.
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Name: Amber
Missouri (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Region: Missouri Garden Photography
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amberjewel
Jun 18, 2016 12:09 PM CST
@ediblelandscapinsc
You mentioned using a plant as a pod parent because of its substance and opening habits but that you won't use it as a pollen parent. I am new to Daylilies and I am trying my hand at hybridization for fun right now. Your comment got me wondering if there are some characteristics that are more determined by the pod parent and other characteristics that are determined by the pollen parent?

I am currently using a lot of pollen from God Save The Queen because I think she is beautiful, and I'm using a lot of pollen from Lurch because I like the size and shape of it. But I am doing several other crosses since I don't have a lot of varities in my garden. Just whatever seems to be blooming and available on any given day.
Amber
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 18, 2016 9:15 PM CST
Amber from what I'm told it's about 50/50 the only reason I use it as a pod parent and not a pollen is I'm not very fond of it so I just cross it to not waist a bloom. Don't get me wrong some things may look good with it but I think many of my others will make better pod and pollen parents for my goals.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 19, 2016 10:01 PM CST
today's crosses where as followed:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Restless Heart') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
­čî┐A weed is a plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered­čî┐
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 21, 2016 12:12 PM CST
I crossed some dips with some tets by accident thinking they where tets also for some dumb reason. anyway I have pods on Lavender Blush which is a dip from 2 different tet parents. There is no mislabeling they are tet pollen parents. Will these pods be void?
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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 21, 2016 12:22 PM CST
Not necessarily. You may get a few seeds. I've done it in the past and gotten seeds. Haven't planted any yet to see if they are viable though. And if you are pollinating later in the day there is always a chance an insect got to the flower first and deposited some dip pollen.
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
Daylilies Hybridizer Peonies Vegetable Grower Seed Starter Organic Gardener
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bxncbx
Jun 21, 2016 3:32 PM CST
Not necessarily. You may get a few seeds. I've done it in the past and gotten seeds. Haven't planted any yet to see if they are viable though. And if you are pollinating later in the day there is always a chance an insect got to the flower first and deposited some dip pollen.
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jun 21, 2016 3:33 PM CST
I was hoping that Dragonfly Dawn would bloom this year to do some crosses but it is so small that I doubt it will bloom.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 21, 2016 8:48 PM CST
Thanks Elena, I hope it wasn't self pollinated but I guess that's always a chance with evening crosses. Cindy is Dragonfly Dawn a slow grower in general or just in the North?
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jun 21, 2016 8:56 PM CST
today's crosses where as followed:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Collaboration') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin') X Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forbidden Fantasy')
I'm getting fewer blooms everyday but have pods on every tet in the garden except Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Francis of Assisi')
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Birds Cat Lover
Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Daylilies Hummingbirder Heucheras
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Hemlady
Jun 22, 2016 5:44 AM CST
ediblelandscapingsc said:Thanks Elena, I hope it wasn't self pollinated but I guess that's always a chance with evening crosses. Cindy is Dragonfly Dawn a slow grower in general or just in the North?




That I don't know Daniel. This is only the second summer I have had it.
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