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Name: Beth
Northern Virginia (Zone 7a)
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bcheckov
Jun 17, 2016 11:09 AM CST
Something is eating the new growth off the sedums I just planted. What could it be and how do I stop it?
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Jun 17, 2016 6:28 PM CST
Welcome to NGA @bcheckov

I see you are in zone 7, but could you include a state or country? A picture of your plant would also be helpful.

In summerbirds will go after sedums for water stored in the leaves. Rutgers Univ just released a notice on the red headed flea beetle

http://plant-pest-advisory.rutgers.edu/red-headed-flea-beetl...

These are merely guesses without being able to see the damage, or knowing what part of the world they are growing in.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jun 18, 2016 5:34 AM CST
Welcome! I agree more information and a picture would help us figure out possible culprits. The type of sedum also, and the extent of the damage. If this is a large sedum like 'Autumn Joy' and large amounts of the tops are disappearing, around here that would be deer. They love those sedums!
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Jun 18, 2016 6:19 AM CST
Snales/slugs?
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Name: Sally
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sallyg
Jun 18, 2016 7:44 AM CST
Another gardener here has seen the birds eat them, weird as that may sound, I have no reason to doubt her. But could be other culprits.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 18, 2016 8:35 AM CST

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I have had the birds pull the smaller type ground sedum apart, feeding on parts of the plant. Seems like it is only in the spring when they do this.
Name: Sally
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sallyg
Jun 18, 2016 8:49 AM CST
I've seen the suggestion, for dealing with groundhog damage, that giving them water sources might reduce the plant damage. No idea if this applies to the birds (if that's the culprit)
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Jun 18, 2016 9:07 AM CST
I lost my purple split rocks (Pleiospilos nelli 'Royal Flush' ) to very persistent birds. They literally gouged them to death. Sad

Also, squirrels, mice and other rodents will graze on various succulents.
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Jun 18, 2016 9:14 AM CST
Hi Sally . I thought that might work too. I discovered that it wasn't water they were after. We have a pond and 6 birdbaths and 3 butterfly water trays....then I realized that it was indeed spring and early summer that the damage was done, I think the critters were looking for food as the berries and seeds etc. weren't growing/ready yet. Maybe they were just hungry.
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sallyg
Jun 18, 2016 11:47 AM CST
Good observation, moonhowl Thumbs up
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Name: Beth
Northern Virginia (Zone 7a)
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bcheckov
Jun 18, 2016 3:56 PM CST
It could be birds. I've seen purple finch on them repeatedly. I thought they were drinking water!

BTW, I am in northern Virginia and here is a picture of the sedum (Autumn Joy).

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valleylynn
Jun 18, 2016 4:42 PM CST

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What kind of birds are they? I have never had them bother the upright sedum. Do you have dear that might be visiting at night?
Name: Beth
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bcheckov
Jun 18, 2016 5:27 PM CST
I'm pretty sure I've seen purple finch on the sedum. The sedum is Autumn Fire not Autumn Joy. I don't think deer are around since it is a subdivision near a golf course with no woods around.
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Name: Beth
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bcheckov
Jun 18, 2016 6:06 PM CST
Do rabbits eat sedum?
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sooby
Jun 18, 2016 6:27 PM CST
I haven't had rabbits eat sedum but different rabbits have different ideas about what is tasty. Is the golf course completely surrounded by sub-divisions? I see deer on the golf course near here which has some houses around but also farmland. If it was deer you may see their hoofprints in the soil near the plants.
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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Jun 18, 2016 6:55 PM CST
I can see beak shaped cutouts in hard to reach angles. I see these in green leaves in spring of certain types of plants. The culprits in my case are White Crowned Sparrows that winter over in the gardens here. Pecked a few things to death every year then they start in on petals of spring flowers! Love them anyway.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 18, 2016 8:53 PM CST

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Yes, some rabbits will nibble on sedum.
Same here Leslieray. We have the little house sparrows. We love them. The Blue Jays do a lot of damage here in the spring.
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ssgardener
Jun 19, 2016 6:47 AM CST
Beth, I'm not too far from you and have witnessed birds eating my sedum. I was standing in the kitchen and watched as a bird perched on the hanging basket and feasted on the sedum for quite awhile.

But the damage on my Sedum seboldii isn't as extensive as yours and I've never had birds touch my larger sedums like Autumn Fire.

I don't have deer so I don't know what deer damage looks like, but I do know that sedum is not at all deer proof.
Name: Betsy H
Gaithersburg MD (Zone 7a)
BetsyH
Jul 9, 2016 3:28 PM CST
I'm in Maryland just over the Potomac from Beth, and have identical sedum damage. I've seen the purple finch on it and have woodchucks across street. Any ideas on how to keep the birds away?
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 9, 2016 6:55 PM CST

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Bird netting? It's black and is not very noticeable. Putting a realistic looking owl worked for awhile. But you do need to move it around the garden.

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