Daylilies forum: Ugly leaves! What is it?

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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
Jun 24, 2016 1:10 AM CST
Hello, the leaves on many DLs have this kind of striking/burnt signs. What is it? I cannot identify the problem.
Thank you!

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Sabrina, North Italy
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Jun 24, 2016 3:53 AM CST
First two questions, has the weather been hot, sunny and or dry lately, and have you sprayed them with anything? Are they new daylilies - I notice some leaves are cut? OK that's three questions Hilarious!
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
Jun 24, 2016 6:36 AM CST
Hilarious!
Well, the weather is hot and sunny since past monday (5 days). It rained for 40 days. Everyday.
No spray at all in these 40 days because of the rains. The plants are all adult plants, you see some cut leaf because I cut the parts that gets brown/ugly.
I'm having some heavy attack from aphids but only in the last two days. Yesterday evening I watered and this early morning I sprayed an insecticide for aphids. Thank You!
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Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
Jun 24, 2016 7:31 AM CST
I live in a very hot climate and my foliage looked horrible. I was ready to cry. I started studying it. Some would be leaf streak, some would be aphids and some would be leaf miners. I had one garden foliage looked ok. I started noticing I got leaf streak on the aphid daylilies. Literally I prayed what to do. Aphids overhead watering to knock them off, leaf streak no overhead watering, what a contradiction. One spring I took baking soda and dish soap and started my daylily washing program. Many years ago I found out that if you have crazy things occurring in your lawn and garden sprinkling baking soda can cure. I used to use baking soda in my swimming pool. It is a great neutralizer. I also have sandy soil. I wash daylilies early in spring. My foliage has looked better longer. Yes I still get leaf streak but it occurs way less. The bed that never had problems got aphids this year. I was late on my spring washing. Those daylilies had some leaf streak for the first time. In my experience you do not notice something was on your daylilies till the heat hits and the foliage can not handle it. The joy in life is when you care for something. It is even hard to see plants struggle. May you be guided to the best answers!
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
Jun 24, 2016 7:46 AM CST
Thank you Sharon. I have to learn a lot.
i fought with spring sickness and some daylily gall midge. But I still can't recognize many problems/pests!
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Jun 24, 2016 8:00 AM CST
The reason I asked about hot dry sunny weather is because some of your problem looks like leaf scorch, see the top picture here:

http://hyg.ipm.illinois.edu/pastpest/200711c.html

Some looks like leaf streak, and it may be that one led to the other because leaf streak needs an injury of some kind to infect. There also may be a nutritional issue going on but it's hard to be sure, some of the other leaves look to be an uneven green.

It is actually quite difficult to identify some daylily problems visually, quite often the only way to be sure what something is requires a diagnostic lab and most of us aren't going to bother with that unless it is a serious problem causing the demise of numerous plants. So we have to try and piece together the possibilities then go through a process of elimination.

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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
Jun 24, 2016 8:09 AM CST
yes, the sun is hitting hard in these days. No clouds and 86-89 F.

I read about leaf streak, and read that the fungus it's the one that's maybe involved in spring sickness. Since I had spring sickness I thought it could be a possibility.
I see some light "scorching" on the scapes too, I thought it was because of slugs ( there were many during the rain period). In the third picture, where you can see the cut leaf, those yellow signs are the same thing of the ones that are on the uncut ones. I thought of cutting because if it's a fungus I'd take off the affected part. The rest of foliage looks healthy to me, not evident signs of any deficiency, given that these leaves are not presenting a deficiency related problem. I hope I wrote in proper manner. I realized how complicated thsi sentence was after producing it Hilarious!
Edit: there's a huge colony of small yellow insects (1 mm) running up and down two DLs. I supposed they are aphids. But I'm not sure anymore..
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Name: Amber
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amberjewel
Jun 24, 2016 8:23 AM CST
Newbie question...what are the possible detriments of having leaves that look like this? Could the plant die if left untreated?
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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
Jun 24, 2016 8:25 AM CST
Amber, I think it depends on what's causing it. If it's because of heat no damage to the plant. If it's because a fungus or some parasite then yes.
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Name: Amber
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amberjewel
Jun 24, 2016 8:36 AM CST
Hmm, I will have to research some of those causes. I too have leaves that are turning brown but I haven't really thought about what might be causing them. I generally just trim off the brown every few days. I do know that I have some spider webs that are attaching to my leaves and around the base of my plants. I haven't actually seen the spiders, but the webs are there. Other than scorch, streak, and aphids, what other types of issues should I look for?
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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
Jun 24, 2016 8:45 AM CST
Uh oh I forgot sipder mites! Looking at my flower there are webs in between blooms! thanks Amber, I was thinkg about aphids but maybe it's a colony of spider mites.

If the plants look healthy don't worry too much, if in doubt take a photo and post on here, someone will sure help! I am in doubt for the yellowing on the leaves so I'm asking. Spider mites can be an answer, you can read it here: http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_dictionary/spider_mites.html
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 24, 2016 8:50 AM CST
amberjewel said:Newbie question...what are the possible detriments of having leaves that look like this? Could the plant die if left untreated?


No a daylily won't normally die from a leaf problem. If the leaves turn brown because of herbicide use then that would be different. The critical part of a daylily is the crown. A fungal or bacterial disease that affects the crown could kill the plant but in that case the leaves would also be wilting.

Name: Judy
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judydu2
Jun 24, 2016 9:12 AM CST
I am posting a link to one of the most helpful pages (in my opinion) about daylilies on the internet. About two-thirds of the way down the page is the pest and disease portion.

Throughout the page, words that are in bold and underlined will take you to pages with clear and descriptive photos. Just click on the underlined words.

http://www.daylilies.org/AHSFAQsNew.html#pests
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 7a)
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Barbalee
Jun 24, 2016 9:20 AM CST
Judy, that is awesome! It is now bookmarked for my next problem...there will surely be one! Rolling my eyes.
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
Jun 24, 2016 9:21 AM CST
Daylilies are pretty tough and Sue is right. Daylilies do not usually die from leaf problems. The biggest mistake made is that when leaf problems occur people think brown/ yellow leaf, I need to water. They water the crown. That can cause other problems like crown rot. Try to water around the daylily. Older leaves can turn brown naturally. Also, look closely at daylily photos. Most are either close up of the flower or a garden shot from far away. If you look closely at any foliage you will find it is not perfect. The most important time to worry about bad looking foliage is in the spring. New growth emerging should look perfect. Many blessings to all!
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jun 24, 2016 12:20 PM CST
I do have just about all the pests mentioned above plus rust! Yet, with as many things that affect the leaves I would like to think the majority of or at least a lot of them that turn from green, to yellow, to brown, to dead are sometimes just the result of old age.
Name: Barbalee
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Barbalee
Jun 24, 2016 3:39 PM CST
You talkin' about me, Larry??
Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 2, 2016 5:22 PM CST
Aureobasidium microstictum
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jul 2, 2016 5:31 PM CST
ediblelandscapingsc said:Aureobasidium microstictum


The fungus that causes leaf streak, before Sabrina panics again Hilarious!

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beckygardener
Jul 2, 2016 5:55 PM CST
Yeah, leaf streak is here everywhere in my area. My daylilies have it B A D ! Sighing!
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