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Jun 25, 2016 6:07 PM CST
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Sir or Ma'am, why kill the ants? They are good creatures outside. They are
not killing the sunflowers, correct? It seems HORRIBLE to kill ants outside in their
habitat.
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Jun 25, 2016 8:53 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Jun 28, 2016 11:52 AM CST
Name: Julie
Eugene, Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Iloveants, I've been battling the ants which invade all my container plants, presumably attracted to the moisture. At least watering seems to bring them back in droves. I read your response asking why kill the ants a couple days ago. Ever since, a question has been burning in my head...DO the ants hurt the plants? And I'd like to know if there are any benefits to their being there? Because I'm certainly NOT winning this war with them! And when I disrupt them they just come into my house Thumbs down I'd rather they stay outside-as long as I know they're not hurting my plants. Can you help with an answer, please?
Thank you very much! Thank You!
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Jun 28, 2016 1:54 PM CST
Name: Robyn
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I can tell you that ants bring aphids into my garden. They seem to think my plants are little aphid nurseries. I've heard from some people (though not personally witnessed) that they will uproot and "spit out" plants they don't like from the garden. They also carry plant diseases around.
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Jun 28, 2016 1:59 PM CST
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Ants will not hurt some plants depending on what they are. If you have shallow rooted plants or newly planted shrubs, the ants can become numerous enough that their extensive (and I do mean extensive...) tunneling can expose roots to air drying them out, keeping them from having contact w the soil-they are not able to asbsorb moisture or nutrients. Also then when it rains the tunnels can collapse, causing the roots to be exposed. So, no the ants do not directly harm plants, but yes I have had them reek havok on some things before. Also if you let them continue on around the foundation of your home they will become numerous and you will have gobs of ants show up in your kitchen/bath. I have been battling ants here for 3 years. I hate them.
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Jun 28, 2016 2:01 PM CST
Name: Jay
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robynanne said:I can tell you that ants bring aphids into my garden. They seem to think my plants are little aphid nurseries. I've heard from some people (though not personally witnessed) that they will uproot and "spit out" plants they don't like from the garden. They also carry plant diseases around.


I don't think the ants bring aphids, but aphids secrets honeydew which attracts the ants.
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Jun 28, 2016 2:02 PM CST
Name: Robyn
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Horntoad said:

I don't think the ants bring aphids, but aphids secrets honeydew which attracts the ants.


Unfortunately, I watched them. Carry aphids. And STICK them on my plants. Little turds. edited to add that they also will protect them from predators, which is just as bad.
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Jun 28, 2016 2:19 PM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
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It has been proven that ants farm aphids. They will move aphid eggs around, some to every plant. Cycle of life. Many joys to everyone!
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Jun 28, 2016 3:44 PM CST
Name: greene
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Welcome! Welcome iloveants, welcome to NGA.

Hmmm, ants. Grumbling
I just came in from the garden where I was moving some potted plants around...and because I was not paying attention my left hand is covered with Fire Ants. I am guessing that @iloveants does not live in Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas...or anywhere else that Fire Ants call home.

That being said, there are many types of ants that are "good" for the garden and good for the circle of life.
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Jun 28, 2016 7:01 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Fire ants are the ultimate predators and control many other types of insects - probably not all bad guys - more likely to harm the gardener than the garden, I think. My complaint is with leaf cutter ants who can strip the leaves from a good sized rose over night.
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Jun 29, 2016 12:41 PM CST
Name: Julie
Eugene, Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Thank You! Group hug
THANK YOU EVERYONE!! I tip my hat to you.
You have given great insight and helpful information. Especially in explaining my aphid problem this year which has already caused one new plant to be disposed of, sadly.
Best wishes to all in your gardening endeavors
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