Agastache and Salvias forum: which salvia attracts most pollinators?

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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 29, 2016 12:48 PM CST
Just curious, I know they are prone to falling over due to instability.

Are their colors or fragrance ones that bolster more than other varieties?
Brenden
Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Jun 30, 2016 9:57 PM CST

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I don't know. Hopefully, some of the other members will chime in.

@FBTS would you chime in?
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Name: Kermit Carter
Elk, California (Zone 9a)
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FBTS
Jul 1, 2016 9:08 AM CST
Our Everything Salvias blog has a great deal of information on this subject:

http://www.fbts.com/everything-salvias/

Some time reading these articles should go a long way toward answering your questions.

Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Jul 1, 2016 7:46 PM CST

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Thank you Kermit! I plan to read all when I've a lot more time. It looks like great reading at first glance and I can't wait to read all!

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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 1, 2016 7:51 PM CST
FBTS said:Our Everything Salvias blog has a great deal of information on this subject:

http://www.fbts.com/everything-salvias/

Some time reading these articles should go a long way toward answering your questions.


Thank you so much k, beautiful!
Brenden
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Jul 1, 2016 10:21 PM CST
Two I know of that we grow here have names that both refer to bees. Those would be S. Melisodora and S. apiana. Our Grape Scented Sage boomed for eight months here in Sacramento. Grape-Scented Sage (Salvia melissodora) and. White Sage (Salvia apiana)
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Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
Jul 6, 2016 2:15 PM CST
@bhart90 In Texas these are continually covered in bees. May Night
Salvia Sylvestris zones 4 to 9. If they stop blooming cut off or mow over they regrow blooms quickly. Might also be known as meadow sage. It is a perennial. It does not self sow, but will put out a baby or two next to itself.
Easy root on cuttings. Actually save your cutback for forcing rebloom and root that. May joy follow you this month!
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 6, 2016 2:18 PM CST
Thank you so much for your 2 cents!
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Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Jul 6, 2016 3:51 PM CST

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Altheabyanothername said:@bhart90 In Texas these are continually covered in bees. May Night
Salvia Sylvestris zones 4 to 9. If they stop blooming cut off or mow over they regrow blooms quickly. Might also be known as meadow sage. It is a perennial. It does not self sow, but will put out a baby or two next to itself.
Easy root on cuttings. Actually save your cutback for forcing rebloom and root that. May joy follow you this month!


I agree and love May Night.

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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 6, 2016 8:38 PM CST
Altheabyanothername said:@bhart90 In Texas these are continually covered in bees. May Night
Salvia Sylvestris zones 4 to 9. If they stop blooming cut off or mow over they regrow blooms quickly. Might also be known as meadow sage. It is a perennial. It does not self sow, but will put out a baby or two next to itself.
Easy root on cuttings. Actually save your cutback for forcing rebloom and root that. May joy follow you this month!


Would you be interested in sending any seeds Sharon?
That's my mother's name too.
Brenden
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
Jul 6, 2016 9:02 PM CST
Brenden-- unfortunately/or fortunately it is sterile. Being sterile it would not become invasive and upset the balance of nature. It should be available for a reasonable price at a nursery. One plant well taken care of can easily be 50 in a couple of years. I only had one to start and I have
12 to 15 in the yard and have given away more than that. I would send a plant but mine has never gone winter dormant. See if you can find one closer to you, so it is more comfortable with winter temperatures. This is a common garden salvia and easy to propagate so maybe another gardener would send you some. If you can not locate one let me know.
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Name: Missy
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Zazinnia
Jul 6, 2016 9:09 PM CST
The most popular Salvia in my yard is Black and Blue. It is always covered with bees. Second would be Hot Lips Sage.
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jul 7, 2016 9:42 AM CST
Now the stalks with flowers, do you immediately cu after all are brown?
How often can they rebloom .
Brenden
Name: Missy
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Zazinnia
Jul 7, 2016 9:54 AM CST
My Black and Blue Salvia and the Hot Lips are in bloom continuously. I cut the Hot Lips way back several times a year to keep the size in control. In winter, the black&blue lose leaves and I cut the stalks down. The Hot Lips is evergreen. I will see if I can find some pix.
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Name: Missy
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Zazinnia
Jul 7, 2016 10:04 AM CST
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Black and Blue. Cell phone pix are fuzzy
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Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
Jul 7, 2016 10:47 AM CST
Brenden and Missy I do not think the black and blue salvia is cold hardy in Michigan maybe in a warmer winter only. Here it is invasive and self sows. I think you would need an expert from Michigan. Even if you saved seeds I do not think your length of growing season would work for it.

The May Night can be in bloom all summer if you continue to cut the flower stalks off. The flower is purple and it's stalk green. You cut green off, when there is not any purple left. If your plant is established and you cut down too far no worries it always grows back bigger. I do not know how you get them ready for winter. Whether you cut back in fall or let it die naturally to insulate and keep water out of its stems. Really probably need someone here who has cold weather experience. It is a beautiful blooming carefree plant that is a bee magnet, that is not invasive.

May we be blessed with some gardening help from Michigan! May you both have many joys come your way this week!
Name: Utah Xeric Man
Central Utah (Zone 6b)
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utahxericman
Jul 7, 2016 11:30 AM CST
@bhart90
I am in a similar or same zone as you but live in Utah, I am pretty new to Salvia's (grew hot lips, a coral flowering salvia similar to hot lips and one other salvia when I lived in California a few years ago. However, I saw Salvia Darcyi (Pscarl or Vermillion Bluffs) at a local nursery last year and the hummers were going nuts on them and that plant started my Salvia OBSESSION (lol) I found a couple of Black and Blue Salvia's last year as well, I covered them with a solid piece of tree bark (from a maple tree that I cut down) and then mulched them in about a foot of mulch, they overwintered just fine. I also way late in the year purchased Salvia's from Flowers by the Sea (FBTS), but none of those overwintered, (my fault for purchasing them too late in the year, is my only conclusion that I can come up with). So I ordered a ton about 20 or so from FBTS again this year and got them in the ground (or in pots the more tropical or warm plant zones) early. They are doing good, the Radio Red Salvias that I bought from them always have bees and hummingbirds visiting them and so far they have bloomed since I bought them, the only trouble I have with them is they tend to fall over a bit, my Vermillion Bluffs attract bees non stop (mostly Native bees) and hummers as well. My Amistad Salvia's attract hummers, the Dancing Doll Salvia and shell dancer I have attracts hummers as well. I have others as well (a lot of "elk" salvia, FBTS bred) and they seem to be taking a break from flowering at the moment, (maybe I need to cut them back a bit, to encourage more flowering????) Anyway there are a lot of Salvia's I think that will do the trick, but my red flowering salvias seem to bring in the most species of pollinators (birds and bees)...
Name: Judy
Simpsonville SC (Zone 7b)
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SCButtercup
Aug 28, 2016 5:42 AM CST
Amistad salvia is SO beautiful! It is almost like a shrub but dies back in winter, I'm sure ire oils need some protection for winter in cold zone. Always covered in butterflies and bees.
Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Aug 28, 2016 11:04 PM CST

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I agree @SCButtercup. I love Amistad. It is so beautiful with the long purple flowers that just keep producing flowers. I always grow it in a large container, so I don't think it would overwinter here even if I mulched it. I always get new plants through FBTS each year. One year it came from FBTS with blooms on it and didn't stop.
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Aug 30, 2016 9:59 AM CST
Man that amastad is gorgeous!

Like a hostas flower setup but purple!

Scent?
Brenden

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