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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jun 30, 2016 11:01 AM CST

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Here's some good news: There's a new rose nursery in Florida that's selling own-root roses in bands at low prices. The website lacks an "About Us" page, so you wouldn't even know about the size of the roses or the fact that they ship them to any state by 2-day USPS priority mail without doing some digging on other sites. Some GardenWeb members have placed orders and posted pictures of the delivered products, and they're impressive. They're much larger plants than the ones Rogue Valley and some of the other own-root nurseries send.

http://www.areverenceforroses.com/default.asp

Most of the roses are $15.00, but they currently have a few on sale for $10.00.

I know threads are more likely to be read if they have a thumbnail photo, so I'm including a photo of Madame Lombard, one of the roses they carry.

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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jun 30, 2016 2:25 PM CST
Thank You!
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Cinta
Jul 1, 2016 8:10 PM CST
Thank you. They really do not tell you much about themselves. They should say they are selling own root.
Name: Andi
Pocono Mountains, PA (Zone 6a)
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GardenQuilts
Jul 3, 2016 9:45 PM CST
I like their selection. I want to grow more old garden roses.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 11, 2016 8:44 PM CST

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If you're going to order roses from this nursery, you should do it before midnight on Saturday, July 16. Some of the roses have been marked down to $8 or $10, and until Saturday you'll get an extra $10 off every four roses you order, $25 off if you order 8, etc. Here's what the newsletter says:

"We are still overcrowded with roses and need to make more room. Until Saturday July 16th at Midnight we are offering the following incentives. For every 4 plants purchased we will credit back to your pocket $10.00. For every 8 plants purchased we will credit back to your pocket $25.00. For every 12 plants purchased we will credit back to your pocket $40.00. These incentives are on top of any sale prices shown on our website where we have already marked down many varieties to $10.00. Mrs. B. R. Cant is marked down to $8.00 for this time period, along with 4 other varieties."
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jul 12, 2016 7:36 PM CST
I took advantage of the sale to get some roses that I really don't know where I'm gonna place. I wanted Buff Beauty but missed out...again. Hilarious!

Maggie
Rhode Island Red (used to grow the chickens so had to get this one)
Sir Thomas Lipton
Souv du Docteur Jamain

I lost one of my G. Thomas roses I just bought so will put one of these in it's spot later this year instead. And instead of getting 2 more Incrediball hydrangeas I may flank the 2 I have now with 2 or 3 roses. I have a Betty Boop I just bought also that's working on growing in a gallon pot.

See what you guys did to me??? I'm trying to transition to mostly natives and I'm buying more roses for a place that really isn't suitable for them (too much shade). Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 12, 2016 8:07 PM CST

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Mea culpa. Hilarious!

I wouldn't worry too much about the shade in the case of Souvenir du Docteur Jamain. It grows best in a slightly shady spot. Too much sun bleaches out its blooms.

I wanted Clementina Carbonieri and Archduke Charles because mine finally died this year, but both were sold out. Too bad. Maybe I'll get them next year. Both were favorites, but I bought them from Rogue Valley Roses about 10 years ago, and they never grew much beyond the "band stage." The Reverence for Roses pictures I saw on GardenWeb show newly delivered bands that are bigger than my 10-year-old roses from Rogue Valley. There's an art to growing cuttings into viable plants, and some nurseries just haven't mastered it as well as others. I still have every Paul Barden rose I bought from The Uncommon Rose when it was in business, for example, but every single Paul Barden rose I bought from Rogue Valley died within the first two years.

I did end up buying four roses from A Reverence for Roses that I already have: Reve d'Or, Souvenir du Docteur Jamain, Meredith Bohls, and Sally Holmes. All four grow well in my garden, so I couldn't pass up the chance to buy duplicates at such low prices. After the $10 credit has been applied, those four roses will cost only $38.00, which is an amazing bargain. The 3-day priority shipping to California for the four roses was only $25.15, which is far less than I'd pay Chamblee's or Roses Unlimited, and their roses take 8 days to get here.
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Jul 13, 2016 10:35 AM CST
Oh happy day!
Thumb of 2016-07-13/CindiKS/9af033

Eight in the box, packed securely. No broken stems whatsoever. No dirt spilled, everything is moist, with no spotted or pale leaves. The sheet of instructions is clear and complete.
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Trinity (Bermuda)
Marachal Niel
Mutabilis
Alchymist
Travemunde
Paul Neyron
Maggie
Archduke Charles (sorry Zuzu)

I listed 3 subs, but they sent an email saying mine were all in stock. A Reverence For Roses puts every other band nursery to shame. I'll post a review on them later.
Every plant has canes that are pencil thickness or nearly so. I expect the roots are very well developed also. The instruction sheet said to pot them into 2 gallon pots and grow them on until they have doubled; a few months or so. These are much bigger than anything I have gotten from Chamblee in 1 gallon pots. They are so nice that I am tempted to place another order before the sale ends. The only other place I know of that carries some of these Teas, Bermuda, Noisettes and Bourbons is Antique Rose Emporium. Nothing against ARE, but I am very happy with these smaller plants for a much smaller price. Shipping is very reasonable, probably less than their cost, even.
As Zuzu said, this place knows how to grow roses! And how to communicate, and how to pack and ship. Hurray! Hurray! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 13, 2016 10:59 AM CST
Impressive! (I like the dog too.)
Porkpal
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jul 13, 2016 12:09 PM CST
Thanks for the pixs!! Love the dog also. He's so cute!! Lovey dubby Hilarious!
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jul 13, 2016 12:52 PM CST
I love that they are telling you to grow roots before planting ... Big Grin

Finally and nursery is sending instructions that is setting you up for success !
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 13, 2016 1:45 PM CST

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Thanks for posting the pictures, Cindi. They really are impressive plants! If you place another order before the deadline and qualify for the $10 credit on four roses, please consider ordering Reve d'Or unless you already have it. It's a gorgeous climbing noisette. It has been marked down to $8.00 on the site, and if you subtract the credit, the price is only $5.50, which is absolutely ridiculous!



Also, please look the roses up in our database or on HMF or Google images before you make your choices. The photos on the website can be deceptively blah. Here's their uninteresting photo of Meredith Bohls, for instance:

http://www.areverenceforroses.com/Meredith-Bohls-roses-p/mer...

The rose actually is gorgeous and looks like this:



Photo of Rose (Rosa 'Meredith Bohls') uploaded by zuzu
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jul 13, 2016 7:47 PM CST
Some of the roses aren't in the database either so hopefully people are buying some of those and can get some new entries started with new pictures. Smiling
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 17, 2016 7:18 PM CST

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These people are in danger of making a bad first impression: I received confirmation of my order last Monday, July 11th, but nothing since then. No roses, not even a shipping notice, and they were supposed to be sent by 3-day priority mail.
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jul 17, 2016 7:23 PM CST
I was told mine would ship tomorrow and that was the last I heard.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 17, 2016 8:21 PM CST

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Maybe they only ship on Mondays. That would make sense because I placed my order Monday evening.
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jul 18, 2016 8:04 PM CST
ZuZu, did you receive a shipping notice today? I just checked my email and mine was in there.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 18, 2016 9:47 PM CST

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Yes, I did, and I thought it was spam at first because it says "Donald Rogers has sent you a package." Hilarious!
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jul 19, 2016 7:29 AM CST
I got that too but I had already received an email from him earlier so I recognized the name. Hilarious! Hilarious!
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Jul 19, 2016 11:34 AM CST
Zuzu, somewhere on their website I read that shipping is Monday after ordering. Like many nurseries, they are trying to avoid having an order sit in a post office over a weekend. I placed another order Saturday night, but I sent them a note saying no hurry on this one because we're going to be at 100 degrees all week long. I'm not worried about the time in the mail because priority mail is flown in here and my carrier is exceptional about getting boxes to my door. I just know I won't be working outside much this week. They have sold out of several that I wanted, but I did get Meredith Bohls and Reve d'Or.
Michael Shupe's Empress of the Garden book is one resource I use when selecting old garden roses. His photos and prose are so enticing. After listening to him talk about OGRs at the national ARS meeting a few years ago, I wanted to fill my garden with blousy, gangly, smelly old roses.
My youngest daughter was home on Friday, and I was showing her pictures of some of the roses I just bought. She was comparing their bloom forms to hybrid teas, and pointed out that cabbage roses are my kind because they look like my hair. That's untamed, curly, a real big mess. She's right, really. My gardens reflect my dislike of defined, sharp edges or anything tightly controlled. Hilarious!
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