Daylilies forum: Anyone have one of these

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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 3, 2016 5:39 PM CST

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Anyone have a fan of these that they would want to part ways with? The wife and i went to the Flower Factory, and she really liked this cultivar,they only had ones planted and not any for sale. Thank you for your time
Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Jul 3, 2016 7:05 PM CST
What's the name of it?
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 3, 2016 7:23 PM CST
I am not sure of the name as there was no tag for it. It was a solid peach color with no eye.
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 3, 2016 7:55 PM CST
Could it be Grazyna, Al's Peach Tower, April Dawn, or Call to Camelot ?
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Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Jul 3, 2016 8:17 PM CST
I could send you some fans of Annie Welch. It looks similar but probably isn't the one you saw since it is an older cultivar. The description in the database says pink but mine always looks peach to me.

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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 3, 2016 8:27 PM CST
Thank you everyone. I know it's near to impossible to ID a daylily as there are thousands of different ones, and hundreds with the same colors, with only subtle differences that a real avid person would notice. While I appreciate daylilies for what they bring to the landscape, I am not that knowledgeable about them. Now lilium I am better at. I just like getting the wife involved in the gardens with me.

So what is the difference between diploid, and tetraploids with hemerocalis?

Elena, I will show it to the wife to see if she likes it, then maybe we can work out a trade or something. Thank you for your generosity
Name: Ken
Traverse City, Michigan (Zone 5a)
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bramedog
Jul 3, 2016 8:37 PM CST
I have one similar to that. It was growing in my yard when we bought our house 20 years ago. It may be a little darker and more of an orange - peach color. Photo makes it look a little darker than it is. Unfortunately I broke it up and gave a bunch away this spring time. So it may be another year before I break it up again. Thumb of 2016-07-04/bramedog/47b94b

Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 3, 2016 8:47 PM CST
Nhra_20 said:

So what is the difference between diploid, and tetraploids with hemerocalis?


besides the chromosome count tetraploids aka tets usually have more substance, stronger root systems, and brighter more vivid colors than diploids aka dips.
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 3, 2016 8:50 PM CST
Thank you Daniel. So tets are the same with these as they are with lilium then. I suppose they tend to put up more scapes/blooms along with longer lasting blooms as well
Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Jul 3, 2016 8:51 PM CST
Not sure since I don't have it, but does anyone think it could be Ming Porcelain?


Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Ming Porcelain')
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 3, 2016 8:58 PM CST
yes but it all depends on the cultivar also. I'll have many tet seeds in a few weeks if you want to try some of my seeds. I tried crossing some liliums this year also but the pods are just sitting there not growing so I think they will abort. Do you ever cross any of your liliums?
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 3, 2016 9:06 PM CST
Daniel, this year is the first year i got serious into lilies. I have just been absorbing as much info as i can about them. I will be trying to cross some this year though. So far i have a martagon cross bearing seeds for sure. And the lilies are really just starting to open up for me right now. I'm going to try easier crosses with the same division this year. See what happens. I have a plot of land I can use for seedling gardens to evaluate any crosses i make to make sure they are garden worthy along with appealing to the eye. That's the plan anyways
Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Jul 3, 2016 9:11 PM CST
Nhra_20 said:I suppose they tend to put up more scapes/blooms along with longer lasting blooms as well


In short, no to all of your points. There is no difference in number of scapes per fan or number of blooms that are dependent upon ploidy. These factors depend upon the cultivar and it's culture. The blooms of both ploidys last one day (more or less).



Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jul 3, 2016 9:13 PM CST
I thought about 'Ming Porcelain' when I first saw the photo, maybe because that is one I am growing. I think it was the shape of the bloom more so than the color that drew my attention.

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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 3, 2016 9:26 PM CST
this is the first year i got into lilies also and plan to add more this fall, here are some I grow.

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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 3, 2016 9:37 PM CST
I have quite a few lilium. Forever Susan was one i planted, just buds on it right now.
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A few of the ones I have. I do enjoy them
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 3, 2016 10:13 PM CST
judydu2 said:

In short, no to all of your points. There is no difference in number of scapes per fan or number of blooms that are dependent upon ploidy. These factors depend upon the cultivar and it's culture. The blooms of both ploidys last one day (more or less).


I agree with the scape count and that daylily blooms only last 1 day hints the name daylily but in my yard the tets seem to stay "stiffer" longer during a hot day than my dips that tend to wilt fast or have the color fade quickly but I only have a few dips in my garden that have bloomed so I'm far from an expert. The number of scapes per fan and number of blooms depend on the cultivar and it's culture for sure. Even daylilies registered with high bud counts may never see as many as the hybridizer claims due to it's growing condiction in your garden regardless if it's a dip or tet but with the larger root system on the tets they are able to take up more water and nutrients than the dips and from what I've read are often preferred over dips by many gardeners and that's why so much work has been done converting dips to tets. There are more registered dips than tets right now but the tets are catching up. Judy has been doing this a lot longer than me so she knows what shes talking about these are just my personal observations and some of the things I've read but again I'm far from an expert and still learning new things daily.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 3, 2016 10:14 PM CST
Dave your blooms are amazing Lovey dubby
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 4, 2016 8:29 AM CST
I like both tets and dips, but for me personally, I find that the dips seem to be less prone to disease and pests. I don't know if that is my imagination or what. But I have daylilies in a raised bed. One side to the middle has tets, the other side to the middle are dips. The dip side always looks so much better and blooms more abundantly. I know it could also be the cultivars that I am growing together. The nice foliage and lots of blooms on the dip side is something quite apparent to me.
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